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Pedego Recalls 5000 ebike Batteries

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Pedego Electric Bikes is voluntarily recalling the batteries from every e-bike it produced between January 2010 and September 2013.

Pedego launched the recall, which involves approximately 5,000 batteries, around the beginning of the year after receiving two complaints from customers whose batteries overheated and melted while charging, said Terry Sherry, the company’s co-founder and CFO.

“The first time it’s like, what the heck just happened?’ Sherry said. “After the second time, you start asking questions and doing the research.”

He said the battery issue stemmed from an apparent manufacturing problem. A film corrodes inside the battery cell that serves as a barrier between the anode and cathode, allowing the battery to short and overheat.

“The challenge we have is that we have no way of knowing how many cells have that potential problem. We know it was a small group but we don’t know which cells they were,” Sherry said. He declined to name the manufacturer, which is based in China.

In September 2013, Pedego decided to begin sourcing all e-bike batteries from Samsung. Pedego has advertised the recall through its website and Facebook page, and through its retailers. It also operates a website, www.batteryrecall2015.com, where consumers can see if their battery is covered by the recall.

The company also has attempted to contact all affected consumers directly.

“We’ve sent out emails to everybody that we possibly have emails for, or sending out letters to all those that we don’t have emails for,” Sherry said. “We’re very concerned about our customers and their safety and that’s paramount to us,” he added.

“We made the tough — and costly, I might add — decision to recall 5,000 batteries.”

The battery manufacturer is covering some of the costs of the recall, but Sherry said Pedego still expects to take a significant financial hit.

Shipping is a big expense. Because batteries are considered hazardous materials, Sherry said Pedego pays a surcharge of $35 to $40 for every battery it ships to a consumer.

“Instead of $20 a battery, it ends up costing me $55 or $60 a battery,” he said. “When you’re shipping out a thousand of them, two thousand of them, it starts to add up.”

Sherry said Pedego assumes consumers have already replaced between 1,500 and 2,000 of the affected batteries through attrition. “As they get older they start losing their energy and they have to be replaced anyway, just like any battery,” he said.

He said Pedego customers have responded positively to the recall, and to the company’s efforts to replace affected batteries for free. “It’s starting to pay back in spades because our customers are our biggest fans,” he said. “When do you stuff like this, it just reinforces the reasoning why they should recommend you to their families and friends.”


Bafang BBSO2, 750W mid-drive electric bike motor Kit Review

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Editor note August 2015. We have re-written this story to make it more current as of today.  “Spinningmagnets”  wrote the original version of this story 2 years ago  and predicted the BBSO2 would be a hot thing.  Now it is clear this is one of the best DIY Kits on the market…and the most popular. 

Bafang has released a 750 watt mid drive system that has been making a big splash in the electric bike market in the USA and is now probably the most popular conversion kit available (more popular than any brand of hub motor kit).  We are very excited about this kit…and now its easier than ever for the do-it-yourself builder to have a powerful quality home built bike.  We are a big fan of this kit and have even decided to offer it on our new  store for a reduced price of $525. This kit is so cool we think everybody should be able to afford to buy one.

Mid drives are the hottest feature of commercial bikes in 2014.   (read our article on commercial available ebikes)

It seems build yourself mid drives from easy to use kits such as the Bafang BBS02  and the Lightning Rods Kit is the thing for 2015.

Bafang has really raised the bar by making a very clean looking and small kit that is powerful. We are hoping they help start a title wave of cool and fast bolt on hub kits.    Read our  list of  currently available mid drives that you can bolt on your bike.

 

Why to buy a Bafang BBS02 in  a Nutshell

  • The Bafang looks super cool and expensive when bolted on a bike
  • A mid drive is the best option for off road riding such as single track
  • A mid drive has many advantages over a hub motor (read our article)
  • The Bafang is among the quietest mid drives I have ridden….quiet is key
  • The Bafang BBS02 has a built in controller making for an ultra clean installation
  • The Bafang puts out as much as 1300 watts a full 3x as much power as the much more expensive Bosch or Panasonic Drive
  • A Bafang equipped bike becomes a true mountain climber….something a hub motor bike will never be

 

Bafang BBSO2 = Commercial ebike slayer

Before if you wanted a mid drive you had to buy a commercial ebike for over $5000 (such as the Bosch or Panasonic drive systems) . What’s worst is these expensive bikes were  designed for the European market so would only put out 300 watts max.  These bikes look slick and clean, but are a real disappointment to ride (like wearing a condom), especially considering the price. Currie Technology, a company known for selling affordable $500 ebikes from bargain basement stores, somehow became a distributor of these expensive mid drives in the USA and tried to explain the $7k price tags to  the american public by saying a 300 watt mid drive was so efficient and effective it was the same as a 750watt bike….the nice looking Bosch bikes offered by Currie made only a small ripple  in the USA ebike scene, (see some of Currie’s  high end mid drive bikes) but were far too expensive to make a big splash…but look how sexy they look.

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As you can see the Hai Bike  above has the Bosch power system that requires a special frame.  The frame is a full suspension frame and a 10ah battery is just large enough to fit in the dolphin pack where the water bottle would normally go. This is about as nice as an ebike can look,  its too bad that the bike is limited to 400 watts maximum power.   But many builders are able to achieve almost this look with a much  more afforable (and much  faster) Bafang BBSO2 system  with a larger battery pack meaning more range.

Examples of some pretty BBSO2 Builds

Having access to beautiful bafang BBS02 drives and elegant new battery offerings such as 18650 Dolphin packs builders are coming up with some slick looking bikes that rival even the best commercial ebikes, and they are faster with larger battery packs for longer range. Click on the pics below to read about the build process of these bikes:

 

 

 

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Read aboutByebyepetrol Build by clicking on the pic

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“SCFOSTERS” EBike creation uses a traditional rear mount battery pack

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Karl of electric-fatbike.com

750 watts and Beyond….Power is King

In the USA we have a 750 watt limit to be legally considered an ebike .  That means you can push even more….go over the limit a bit and still be totally legal.  (read our article on ebike law)   An ebike putting over 1000 watts is a true joy to ride and what will make ebikes more mainstream in the USA market. 1000 watts in a mid drive is pure nectar because it uses the power so efficiently.

So Bafang releases the BBS02 a kit that will bolt on to almost any bicycle and transform it into a mid drive power house.  What’s so amazing about this kit is that when you install it your bike really can look like a commercially available ebike .  The kit has everything you need except lithium battery to transform almost any bike into a high end mid drive ebike.  Lunacycle.com  offers high quality Samsung or Panasonic   48v and 52 volt battery packs in different configurations for a very affordable price.  Take a look at there 52 volt Dolphin pack make of cutting edge Samsung 30q cells for an especially clean solution. (see product now)

Here is an example of an ultraclean Bafang installation with Dolphin battery pack. A hardtail mountain bike with front suspension is a perfect platform for the Bafang BBSO2 because you have plenty of room to either mount with a dolphin battery pack or a soft triangle battery bag.   How you mount your battery and how you hide your wires will really decide how commercial your ebike looks when installing the Bafang BBSO2.   Read our article on battery mounting solutions.

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So now finally you have an affordable ebike kit solution from a respected manufacturer that can look awesome when mounted to the bike. Not only that it is a mid drive which will give you all the off road and hill climbing capacity that a mid drive can bring.  

 

So it looks good, and at $525 (not including battery) the price is definitely right. If you have a good mountain bike around, you can buy a drive and  great battery set up for under $1000.
The Bafang BBSO2 is not only affordable, it is also more powerful than both the Bosch and Panasonic systems. The 48 volt version advertises 750 watts, but in reality, with a 52 volt battery and some setting tweaks you can easily get over 1200 watts on this system. Because mid drives are so efficient, 1200 watts  is the equivalent of 2000 watts in a hub drive, and no hub motor can touch the hill climbing prowess of a powerful mid drive.

Pros of the Bafang BBSO2 over conventional hub motor kit:

  • The weight of the drive system is very low and is in the center of the bike providing perfect balance. When weight is low and centered like this it can actually make the bike more stable (like a keel on a sailboat).
  • Lightweight- This entire system with controller and components is only 8.5 pounds…significantly lighter than most hub motor kits
  • The ability to use the gearing of  the bike…so now you can climb big hills in low gear…or go fast in a high gear.
  • Very good climber..even off road climber
  • No more heavy weight in the wheel means the bike will be much more agile going over off road terrain and the bike may even be able to do tricks.
  • the controller is built into the motor which means it is a tighter system with less wires to hide.
  • Integrated pedal assist.
  • The bafang includs a nicely integrated dashboard and throttle
  • Mid drives have a “cool factor” that hub motor bikes lack. 

 

Cons of the Bafang BBSO2

  • It is harder to install than a traditional hub motor kit.
  • It is not as reliable as a hub motor kit…care must be  taken not to overheat controller (read more later).
  • It is not as easy and smooth as riding with a hub motor (you need to think what gear you are in  etc)
  • It is more  expensive than a hub motor kit.
  • It cannot be hot rodded like a hub motor kit.
  • The pedal assist system is a cheap cadence sensor and we wish it had a torque sensor for a smoother riding experience.

As you can see here are many big advantages to a going with a mid drive such as the Bafang BBs02 .  But if your purpose is to just ride on flat streets, maybe you need the ease of a hub motor kit instead.  Until now almost all conversion kits on the market were hub motor kits. We applaud Bafang for releasing a mid drive kit that can be installed on almost any conventional bike and transform it into a mid drive electric bike.

 

 

 

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Here’s a view of the 750W mid-drive unit that shows how compact a 48V / one horse-power motor is, when it’s mounted to a common size and shape of frame. If this system was using only 24V, the motor would have to be twice as large to produce this level of power.

Ok but how fast will it go?

This is a very valid question. And we love it when its asked….welcome to the speed club.

For speed…if you go with a 52 volt battery on the higher gears you can easily achieve speeds of 30mph on paved flat ground. People have tried to get over 30mph but at this point the drive becomes unstable and incapable.   This is a very sweet 25-30mph solution.  And we feel 30mph is just about the right speed for an electric bike in terms of fun, efficiency and safety. If you want more than this on a mid drive, then consider the Lightning Rods drive system which can achieve speeds as high as 50mph and burn up to 3000 watts and is like hell on wheels.  (read on the lightning rods system here)

The most special thing about  a mid drive is not how fast it will go but how  slow you can go with great torque. You can shift into a low gear and go 12 mph top speed with the motor winding at full rpm. This means that you can climb steep technical off road hills that you could never climb using a hub motor.  The Bafang mid drive has the capacity to be an electric chair lift…take your mountain bike to the top of the mountain….so that you can scream down at whatever speed above 30mph that you dare.

Hub motor kits will go much faster when hotrodded…but only on streets…off road hilly terrain there is no contest….a mid drive is better.

 

How does the BBSO2 compare to expensive commercial mid drive ebikes?

I actually owned a $12,000 Optibike a few years back (read my review) and I actually like the Bafang BBSO2 conversion bike better.  Why? it is quieter and it is more powerful while being an effective mid drive .

I also have test rode the Hai bike and other high end Bosch drives and I prefer the BBS02. Why? The Bosch drives are amazingly smooth and quiet but they have a maximum 400 watt output and feel extremely wimpy after riding a BBSO2. After you have had this kind of power you won’t want to go back. The fact that you can have that power at a fraction of the cost of a commercial mid drive such as the Bosch or Optibike really makes it an easy decision for me.

 The Bafang IS Quiet!!

I have owned some ultra thrilling mid drives. But one thing that always brings me back to hub motors is I cannot stand a noisy electric bike. To me riding an electric bike on a single track where other bicyclists might be, i think it is essential to be stealth. I don’t like to be hissed and snickered at and unfortunately most mountain bikers are not accepting of electric bikes.  Also when i am riding in nature I like to take in the sounds…..I hate ruining the tranquility of nature with a loud abnoxious electric motor (my Optibike use to sound like a weed eater).  I love that the Bafang is powerful and yet quiet.  Of course it is not the most powerful mid drive i have ridden….but I am willing to trade off a lot of power just to have a quiet system that makes me forget it is there….and makes me feel like Superman with legs of steel.

Is the BBSO2 Compatible with my bike?

 

Here's a 750W unit attached to an Electra Townie step-through frame.

Here’s a close-up of a 750W unit attached to an Electra Townie step-through frame.

Your bike must have 68-73mm bottom bracket width. That means this kit will bolt onto most standard bicycles. But not fat bikes.  Also if you have a bike with a step-through frame (ladies bike), the position of the “S”-shaped downtube may require that the motor position be rotated downwards, and this may reduce the ground-clearance to an unacceptable level. The drive fits best when mounted to a common diamond-frame.

 

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This frame is a Hudson cruiser bicycle, and you can see how on some frame shapes, the motor must be rotated downwards to fit. This reduces the ground clearance, so you should not go curb hopping on and off the sidewalk like this.

 

 

Also many people have found that the Bafang can actually be mounted to many types of trikes, which can be fun since many trikes are not good candidates for hub motor kits.

In any case trust me…this kit is worth buying a bike special just  for it…..go out and find the perfect hard tailed mountain bike you always dreamed of….its never a bad idea to add a good horse to the collection.

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What about Fat Bikes?

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The stock BBSO2 is not compatible with fat bikes because of the extra wide 100mm bottom bracket.  But do not give hope there are solutions and a mid drive is an excellent thing to have on a fat bike. There are a few american companies  offering fat bike conversion kits for the Bafang BBSO2.   Check out the great article on electric-fatbike.com for more information and unbiased  on all the offerings.  

Ease of Installation

This is not the easiest kit to install.  You are going to remove the bottom bracket of your bike and put this motor in its place.  If you have ever done bicycle maintenance removing a bottom bracket is not a dummy proof job and does require some special bicycle tools.   Any bicycle shop should be able to help you out with the installation if you can convince them that isntalling the kit is as simple as installing a new bottom bracket…it kind of is except this bottom bracket is a bit cumbersome and weight 8.5 pounds.

If you are going to attempt the job you are going to need a crank puller to get the old crank off.  Getting the old bottom bracket off is by far the hardest part of the job.

A fair estimate of how long it takes to install a BBOS2 is 2 hours after you have removed your old bottom bracket. Depending on your mechnanical skills, the bike you are dealing with, and what tools you have removing your old BB can take up to 2 hours.

We really recommend getting a bike shop to atleast remove your old bottom bracket if you have not done this before.  For a skilled bike mechanic with proper tools this is a 10 minute job.

For a complete guide on installing the BBSO2 check out the  electric-fatbike.com guide. 

Battery Options

There is no doubt about it the best battery solution for the BBSO2 is an 18650 battery pack using the latest high density cells (the same cells that Tesla uses in their cars).  Your voltage is an easy decision as well…48 volt  or 52 volt which is the only 2 options in an 18650 pack for this particular drive.

To get the maximum wattage of 1300 watts we would highly  recommend going with a 52 volt pack.  At some point you are going to wish you had that extra power.

The only thing left to decide is what size. This all depends on where you are gong to mount the pack and how much space you have. You can fit 20ah  of battery in a triangle bag.  A 10ah pack is much smaller and is easier to mount…even in a dolphin pack which is little larger than a water bottle….and the dolphin mounts on the downtube same place as the water bottle. Dolphin packs are popular on this kit because they give the bike a very finished commercial ebike look to them.

Of course the place we recommend to  buy 18650 batteries is Lunacycle.com which uses name brand cells, top performance BMS, and has affordable prices in the USA.

Display Options

 

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There are 3 possible display options that come with the BBSO2.  The c961, the c963, and the c965.  There is no big difference in these and none of them can manage to do whats so hard for the Chinese factories to incorporate an accurate watt meter gauge into their displays.  You can read on more detail on the displays on this article posted by electric-fatbike.com

Transmission Options

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One of the sweetest things about a mid drive such as the BBSO2 is  you can choose what kind of bicycle transmission you want in the back wheel for the motor to go through.   A really good option to consider is an IGH (internal gear hub) and run all the gears in a transmission contained in the rear hub with no messy deraillers and a completely straight chain line.

By far the sweetest option is the Rohloff pictured above. (read our article Rohloff on an electric bike) Rohloff’s are expensive…over $1500 but once you equip one on a home built mid drive you have a really sweet ride that commercial ebikes could not touch under $10,000.

Of course there are more affordable IGH solutions, and because the Bafang is not crazy powerful any of these transmissions should be sufficient to handle its moderate power:

  • Alfine 8 (quality click shifter)
  • Rohloff  (14 speed) read article
  • Nuvinci 360  (variable)
  • Nuvinci harmony (automatic transmission)
  • Nexus Hub (the most affordable)

Pedal assist and Throttle Options

The way the BBSO2 comes out of the box it is mostly a pedal assist system, meaning the drive senses how fast you are pedaling and applies power accordingly. This is not as sweet of a solution as a torque sensor which senses how hard you are pedaling and is in more expensive systems such as the Bosch. No need…the bafang also has a throttle…and after you are moving you can use the throttle to apply more power when you need it.The dashboard has different levels of motor assist depending on how much you want the motor to help out.  We really wish Bafang would have provided a torque sensor instead of a cadence sensor on this drive…but you cant have everything.  Having a throttle makes up for a lot.

There are no throttle only modes the way this system comes out of the box. However it is possible to have the drive custom programmed by retailers such as LunaCycle.com so that you can have a throttle mode which makes it so you can easily get the 1300 maximum watts this drive is capable of.  However once you do this you reduce the reliability of the system and should be careful not to fry your controller (a $75 replacement item)

Hot Rod Programming the BBSO2

No surprise the BBS02 came from China and China never sees the sense in why anyone would want to go over 20mph on a bicycle (why not buy a scooter instead). This thing comes programmed from China with no balls.  The good thing about this is this is it is  a very durable unit with the factory settings. However it is not as fun to ride and hard to squeeze the full 1300 watts out this unit is capable of.  Lucky it is easy to hot rod using an optional programming cable…and some retailers such as Lunacycle.com are offering hotrodded BBS02 as an option.

Here is the ultimate programming guide from our friend Karl Gesslein at electric-fatbike.com if you choose to hot rod yourself.

 

Is it Durable?

The BBSO2 is not as durable as a direct drive motor…of course not since  it has many more moving parts.

For any  lightweight powerful system like this it requires some user care to stand the test of time.  If you want lightweight and powerful you are going to have to live that this thing can be delicate. If you dont want delicate then don’t change the factory programming.

If you are riding in difficult off road single track conditions involving a lot of climbing without a lot of pedal assist, and you decided to go for the wild ride of going with a hotrodded program

  • Like all electric motors, when pulling a load the BBSO2 likes to spin fast. Select a gear that keeps it moving fast when clmbing or when starting from a dead stop.
  • Consider a smaller chain wheel to keep your rpms up high
  • Install a temp sensor and monitor your controller temps. (see this link on how)
  • Do not hit your drive when going over logs etc.
  • Don’t tweak the programming settings to hot rod it if you dont want to take a chance.

Read this article for more information on the subject from electricfatbike.com

How Easy Is it to Repair?

The Bafang BBS02 has a very good construction with the controller very accessible. Since the controller is the weakest link in the system it is important that you can easily swap it out yourself with ease.  Even more good news is Bafang is releasing a controller with beefy upgraded mosfets to make it a lot  less delicate. So if you ever do fry your controller you can replace it with one that is more bulletproof.

Other items that you might need to replace are the nylon gears which can be stripped if you are running in a programmed mode off road and are not careful applying too much throttle. Nylon gears are cheap ($30) and are a relatively easy component to replace.

Compared to the Bosch or Panasonic mid drive which you could not dream of repairing yourself (and we heard a Bosch repair will cost you a mandatory  $1000 and is just a trade out) the BBS02 is a breath of fresh air…for an enclosed mid drive you actually have a chance to do most repairs yourself and not incur expensive repair costs.

Conclusion

The Bafang BBSO2 makes a quality mid drive electric bike affordable for anyone….where as just a year ago the equivalent would have cost over $5000 for a commercially available mid drive bike that wasn’t even as fast as a BBSO2 drive installed. The BBSO2 makes it possible for anyone to own a high end mid drive electric bike at an affordable price.

 

For more information on the BBSO2

Special thanks goes to Karl of electric-fatbike.com for helping me with information for this story.  Karl is a true BBSO2 fanatic.  You might have noticed that there is a lot of links in this article to his site. That is because his web site is the ultimate resource on the BBSO2  and probably deserves a lot more links. I recommend all BBS02 users to frequent his site. You will find a wealth of information on how to get the most out of your BBSO2..

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Videos:

BBS02 on a stand, shifting gears

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyS1hrmxR4w

BBS02 riding uphill on 30% grade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NidK93xQvg

BBS01 being dis-assembled by the German distributor for the European market, www.bike-emotion.org

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b68fOrwcOcc

Declic Eco (from France) just posted a dis-assembly video for the BBS01/BBS02

 

 

 

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Look at our article that documents the performance capacity a mid drive offers.

European BBS01 250W owners manual in PDF form:

http://www.ebike-discount.com/online/templatemedia/all_lang/resources/BAFANG+CENTRAL+MOTOR+DRIVE+SYSTEM+-BDS01-+Feb+182013.pdf

Dimensional blueprint of Bafang 350W BBSo1:

http://www.bike-emotion.org/BBS01%20tech.%20Zeichnung.PDF

The endless-sphere discussion thread on the 350W/750W Bafang BB-drives:

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=50104

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Here is an article on mid drive kits to compare the BBS02

https://www.electricbike.com/mid-drive-kits/

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Here is a pic of the BBS02 mounted to a recumbent tadpole trike. The pic is courtesy of Declic Eco,  a French company specializing in custom electric bikes since 2008.

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A BBS02 on a recumbent tadpole trike, courtesy of Declic Eco…Merci!

 

ES member eride lives in Denmark, and he is producing and selling 130-BCD spiders and extra-large chainrings with 70T, 75T, and 80T, for small-tire recumbents using the BBS02.

 

a 130-BCD spider, and chainrings with tooth-counts of 70T, 75T, and 80T are now available.

A 130-BCD spider, and chainrings with tooth-counts of 70T, 75T, and 80T are now available. Of course, the steel spider in the center can also mount a more common 38T-60T chainring

 

endless-sphere.com forum member “crossbreak” (in Germany), is also making 4-arm and 5-arm spiders (104-BCD and 130-BCD), along with spacers. He can be contacted on that forum, or also on his personal email: io9487@gmx.de

 

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5-arm 130-BCD spiders from crossbreak, and he also makes 4-arm 104-BCD spiders

 

 

E-bikes on Kickstarter and Indiegogo

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Kickstarter and Indiegogo are the best-known “crowd-funding” sites. If you need money to start a business, and a bank won’t give you a loan…sometimes you can raise a surprising amount of money from crowd-funding. This last year, a lot of people who believe they could make it as an electric bike retailer have tried crowd-funding, so there’s a wide variety of ebike selections that you can buy from these start-ups. There is risk involved, but…if you are an early adopter and pay up front…you might get a good deal on an ebike that arrives several months later.

If you see a product on a crowd-funding site, and you like it…the price is usually much cheaper during the start-up campaign, compared to the retail production price later.

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Sondors

The Sondors E-bike (originally called “Storm”) has permanently changed the E-bike landscape in North America. You can read our story on the Sondors E-bike here. I’m starting this list with the Sondors campaign because they raised over …six…MILLION…dollars!

That number came as a shock a LOT of people. The bike itself is not very special. Walmart is retailing a single-speed fatbike for roughly $200, and since Sondors advertised that early-adopter would be able to get one of their electric fatbikes for a little over $600 (plus shipping), that meant the electric power system would retail for roughly $400. For that price, it has low power and short range, but…it really works, it really is an electric fatbike, and…they really have started delivering them to customers who had paid the price a few months before.

 

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The six-million dollar Sondors bike has been made with several color schemes.

 

One of the features of the Sondors bike that the public has really responded to is the triangle case in the center of the frame, and how it hides the wiring. It seems like a small thing, but customers really like this a LOT.

The final product that has been delivered to customers and has been tested, and it is not impressive, but…that entire funding campaign was a wake-up call to ebike manufacturers and retailers, and if they are smart, this new development might make them a little nervous. Two commonly mentioned E-bikes (due to advertising and PR) are the $6000 Specialized Turbo, and the $6900 Stromer ST2. They are both wonderful high-quality products with great performance, but their high prices make them very slow sellers.

Don’t write me an angry letter because those two upscale bikes should not be compared to a very basic and entry-level performing start-up like the Sondors…that would be missing the point. If you are an E-bike business that didn’t catch the fact that…over 10,000 customers sent their money into Sondors, without knowing if they would ever receive any product at all…the developments in the new E-bike economy will not be kind to you.

Isn’t there a middle ground? Let’s take a look at some of the other crowdfunding efforts, to see what kind of an E-bike you could get for your money.

 

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Karmic Koben

Their Kickstarter is over, and they had their listed goal met in less than a week. As of September 2015, they are still accepting pre-orders for this E-bike, with $1500 being the least expensive model (which will be around $1800 retail once they are in full production). When I checked today, they were at $259,000.

 

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The Karmic Koben

 

It uses the popular Bafang BBS02 mid drive, which allows the motor to use the bikes gears. The base model weighs 36 lbs, and there is also a carbon fiber frame option that costs more. With both the motor and battery in the center of the bike, this model should handle quite well.

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Rad Rover

This Indiegogo campaign only needed $40,000 as a goal to get mass-production pricing on an electric fatbike built to their spec. The reason they only needed that fairly small amount is because the guy who is starting this electric fatbike campaign (Mike Radenbaugh) already owns a long-standing and successful bicycle shop in Seattle, Washington.

 

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The Rad Rover fatbike. It uses a rear geared hubmotor, which is oil-filled to aid cooling.

 

As of the writing of this article, they had raised $320,000, which far exceeded their $40,000 goal. The rear-mounted geared hubmotor uses 48V, and the system is rated for the US-legal 750W lower limit. Now that the campaign is over, the retail price of the base-model Rad Rover is $1500, which is still not bad. I rode the prototype at the 2015 Interbike convention, and I was very impressed with its performance on mild hills and flat land.

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Vela

This crowd-funding campaign is using both Kickstarter and Indigogo, which I didn’t know was possible. If you pay for one now, the price is $999, but that will be $1800 after they finish, which ends September 21st (so there is still time). As of September 5th, they have raised $16,000 of their $35,000 goal.

 

The Vela electric bike.

The Vela electric bike.

 

The battery is hidden inside the fatter than normal seat-tube. Even so, it still is pretty stealthy, and few people would give it a second look if you were pedaling down a bike path on this E-bike.

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Biktrix Juggernaught

I was skeptical about this start-up. I assumed the Kickstarter campaign was to raise enough money to simply be able to get bulk-purchase pricing breaks on a fairly generic fatbike frame, and the Bafang BBS02 mid-drives. You get a much better unit price if you pay up front for 100 frames, instead of ten. Companies like this come and go, but after I met them at the 2015 Interbike, I have to admit I am very impressed. If they were selling stock, I would invest with them (and I don’t say that often).

They are on solid financial ground, and they are even developing new models, including a proprietary feet-forward comfort cruiser. When I rode their prototypes, the first question out of my (smiling) mouth was “did you get an early prototype BBT02?” (with a torque-sensor, instead of the standard speed sensor). I have found out that the delay of power application on the stock BBS02 is considered a safety feature, so power is not applied until you have started to pedal (or applied a throttle).

Biktrix has made a custom adjustment to the firmware of the BBS02 controllers that they bought, and the power comes on almost instantly, and with a smooth ramp-up. I saw one other company at Interbike that had done the same thing (Lectric Cycles from Arizona).

 

The Biktrix Juggernaught

The Biktrix Juggernaught

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Faraday Porteur

Back in July of 2012, the Faraday Porteur had won several prestigious design awards, and then launched a Kickstarter campaign in order to fund full production. They eventually raised $177,000

 

The Faraday Porteur

The Faraday Porteur

 

The Faraday Porteur was widely considered to be one of the early successes for Kickstarter campaigns. This very attractive and light E-bike mounted the battery cells inside frame tubing, which helped hide the fact that it was an E-bike. It may not seem to different than many other similar bicycle frames, but…there are very subtle styling choices that make this E-bike one of the most beautiful we have seen, and the company is committed to making sure every part on every bike is made to the highest level of quality that is possible.

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What does all this mean?

I don’t think that anyone who gambles on a new company is expecting great customer service, and often…new products made by a start-up have some bugs to work out. That being said, it is clear that this year has been a turning point for electric bikes in North America.

If the large established businesses that are selling electric bikes are going to focus on the high-end E-bikes (with higher profit per unit), then…small businesses like these crowd-sourced examples will step in to fill the $1,000-$2,000 model demand in the market.

There is definitely a market for high-performance and high-quality E-bikes, to customers who will pay a little more to get good customer service. That means the prices for that segment of the market will always be higher, but there are millions of potential customers who don’t need a “Mercedes” E-bike.

Someone is going to step-up to the plate and at least try to serve the potential customers in this market segment. The next time gasoline prices in the US spike-up, there will be a flood of small E-bike retailers entering the market.

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, September 2015

Interbike 2015, ElectricBike.com in Las Vegas again!

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The three biggest bicycle conventions each year are the Taipei Cycle Show in Taiwan (held in March), Eurobike in Germany (August), and Interbike in Las Vegas Nevada (September). These are the trade shows where bicycle parts manufacturers show off their new stuff to bike shop owners in the hopes of securing sales contracts. Take a quick scan of the pics from last years interbike, here.

It is a huge convention, but…only about 10% of Interbike has anything to do with electric bikes. Even so, every year there is something new to see, and this year was no exception.

 

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6:00 AM on the first day. While the gamblers and tourists sleep in, the bicycle folks are up early and eating a healthy breakfast to get ready for the day! Las Vegas is truly open  for business 24/7

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The Overall Impression

Some of what I’m about to say is just opinion, so take that for what it’s worth. I’ve been wrong on occasion before, but…here goes.

Electric bikes have grown in North America over the last year, but…the growth has been slow, and it was definitely slower than projections from last year. In my humble opinion, this is due to the fact that gasoline prices have not only been lower this last year (I paid $1.95/gallon when I passed through Oklahoma, $2.05 in New Mexico, and $2.59 in Arizona), and…projections are that they will likely remain near their current state for at least until summer of 2016. Compare that to $8/gallon gasoline in many European countries, where E-bikes are huge.

We can debate the reasons for slow E-bike growth, but pretending that things are booming for E-bikes in North America will just make you sound like a desperate politician. There is some good news, though! Every E-bike I test-rode this year was quieter…whether it was a hubmotor or a mid-drive. Also, there are more choices than ever for consumers, regarding the frames and drive systems.

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Outdoor Demo

The first two days are called the “outdoor demo”, and are held in a rough desert hillside that is located at Bootleg Canyon Park. This park is about thirty minutes’ drive south of the Mandalay Bay convention center, and free shuttle busses are provided all day.

 

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Pic courtesy of Google Earth

 

Although there were some paved pedestrian paths that could be ridden on with street ebikes, the reason for the outdoor demo is to allow riders to take the demo bikes and ride them on a real hillside with lots of rough terrain to see what the off-road bicycles and ebikes can really do. In the pic, the squigglely shape in the bottom right is a BMX track for everyone to use.

 

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This is what the Scott Bicycles booth looked like, if you just got off the first bus on Monday Morning.

 

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And…this is that same Scott booth just a short time later. They were by far the most popular booth during the entire event, but…I didn’t see any electric models there.

 

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Raleigh had models with any one of three different mid drives available. This is the Shimano STEPs system. This is also the first time I had used an Alfine-8 IGH, and this one was equipped with their optional Di2 electric shifter. Shifting up and down through the gears was quite easy and pleasant by pressing an UP/DOWN control on the handlebars with my thumb.

 

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The Spicy Curry longtail cargobike with mid drive is an awesome ebike solution. If you wanted to actually replace one of your cars, this model should definitely be on your short list of options.

 

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The whole event is “dog friendly”, and this passenger got lots of attention whenever his Chauffeur  stopped.

 

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Prodeco Tech adapted one of their existing frames to an affordable model of integrated downtube-mounted battery and mid drive. They seem to have kept  their various models priced just a little below comparable offerings from other companies, so they are serious about competing in this market.

 

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The Spitzing is very expensive, and every part of it just oozes quality. It is very light, and provides an impressive amount of wheel torque from a modest amount of watts, which indicates the drive system is very efficient, so…you’ll get very long rides from a smaller and fairly light battery. One interesting feature is that instead of using a common 13S nominal 48V pack, they are using a 14S nominal 52V pack.

 

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The Izip E3 Vibe has gotten a complete makeover for the 2016 model. I normally don’t like the battery on the rear, but with the motor weight moved to the middle, the weight of the rear battery pack was not a problem. I liked how the cargo rack was welded instead of bolted on. This model is slated to retail for less than $1999, so I think that it will do well.

 

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The Surface 604 Boar has a modest-sized Bafang geared hub motor, which typically wouldn’t shed excess heat well when used on a very long uphill, but…I was very pleasantly surprised at how torquey this system was. It should do just fine on occasional mild hills.

 

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I also had to try out the Xtracycle Edgerunner mid drive. Mid drives and longtail cargobikes go together very well.  The smaller tire on the rear allows cargo to sit lower, making the ebike easier to handle when you’re on the move.

 

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Flaunt is a new company, and the designer of this colorful single-speed model went to extensive efforts to make the mild-assist electric-drive system very stealthy.

 

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An Electra Townie from Lectric Cycles. They use the popular Bafang BBS02 mid drive. I personally like the “feet forward” posture of these frames, and my favorite Townie has a Thudbuster suspension seat-post.

 

You may not ride the same way that I ride, but the Townie from Lectric Cycles (in Arizona) ended up being one of my favorites, since most of my riding is on street commuters. The aluminum frame is the popular Electra Townie. The BBS02 mid drive that they use has custom programming in the firmware that eliminates the power lag in the speed sensors used by the pedal-assist, with a smooth ramp-up in power. This kit can apply  power by only pedaling if you want, and you also have the option to apply power by a left-side thumb throttle. I liked the combination very much.

 

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The vertical flags in the far center is the Outdoor Demo, and this pic was taken through the bus window in the parking lot. Its funny that…at any other outdoor convention where the weather started to sprinkle a little, everyone would immediately go home. But, bicycle folk?…the light rain didn’t seem to slow them down at all!

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Bosch and Yamaha mid-drives

One of the few things that I absolutely had to do at this interbike, was to ride several different frames that had the new Yamaha mid drive system. I had ridden the impressive Bosch mid drive last year, and they were still just as awesome now as when I rode them before. The large Haibike booth had several models of ebikes with both the Bosch and Yamaha drives, so I began riding and swapping Haibikes to evaluate and compare their “feel”. I had read that the Yamaha drive provides about 8% more torque than the Bosch, but…it will actually cost less than the Bosch unit.

 

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The “Sduro “name means this Haibike uses the Yamaha mid drive. This particular model is a street commuter, and I tried this one first  because I wanted the full traction of asphalt on a steep uphill to see what it can do. Here I asked the rep to show how the battery pack swings to the left to remove it. I like it! They have the future option of providing an extended range battery in a triangle shape without changing the factory interface.

 

Both of the Bosch and Yamaha drives performed flawlessly, and I couldn’t tell them apart unless I looked at them. If there will be a significant price benefit to the Yamaha, then I think they will do very well, since North American customers have a high opinion of both of these marques. Both used sophisticated torque-sensors in the crankset, and the power application was smooth and seamless, not jerky at all.

Of course I immediately raised the power assist on the small control panel to the maximum setting on all the ebikes I tested. I rode hardtails and full-suspension frames (the Germans called them “fullys”) with both the Bosch and Yamaha drives. I wish I could say to you that I could tell the difference, but they were both so wonderful, their performance would not be an issue when deciding between the two of them.

 

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This hybrid frame was a delightful street commuter, but I felt it needed a suspension seat-post like the Suntour NCX. The hydro-formed aluminum tubing is light and attractive.

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The Convention

The one big difference this year is that there was an indoor test track (instead of the loop provided in the outdoor parking lot from last year), and I think the biggest reason for this was to make it easier to provide security for the companies that were loaning out their precious prototypes for test-rides.

 

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I was warned several times to slow down (just like this enthusiast), but the thing I most wanted to see was…how hard could the demo ebikes accelerate?

 

It would be rude of me to suggest that Interbike is crawling with industrial spies that want to copy any new and clever product, but lets just say that…many new products are presented fairly suddenly at the three big bicycle conventions, so they can be tested by potential corporate customers “just before” they are already slated for full production.

 

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The elusive Eric is the head honcho at Luna Cycles, and here he is flying under the radar in incognito mode. He was taking the Bafang demo bike to the track for a test ride on their new BBSHD mid drive. He was all smiles on the return trip!…

 

After signing a liability waiver and getting my test-track wrist-band…I was free to ride any demo bike that was unoccupied and in the test track corral.

 

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The Vintage Electric Bikes “Cruz” model. Sorry for the fuzzy pic, but my heart was beating pretty fast when I was trying to hold the camera steady.

 

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Court Rye from Electric Bike Review, and as you can imagine, he was VERY busy this week!

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Bafang, and the new 1000W BBSHD mid drive kit

The star of the show this year is the new big brother to the popular Bafang 750W BBS02 mid drive (which actually can use 48V X 25A = 1200 peak watts when de-restricted). Some customers have been asking for even more power, so…this new drive is factory-rated as being 30% more powerful than the BBS02 (the factory rates it for 1000W continuous, and 1600W peaks).

Also, since the first BBSHD version will be a drop-in to fit the 100mm wide bottom brackets, that is good news for owners of fatbikes and the higher-end off-road mountain bikes that have a 100mm BB.

 

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The 68mm wide bottom bracket (BB) version has long unsupported spindles on the crankset in order to clear the motor. However, if this drive is on its intended 100mm wide BB (shown), it drops right in and works quite well.

 

Lectric Cycles of Arizona had two of these, a company called Bat Bike had one (shown), and there was a green fatbike at the Bafang booth that had one. The BBSHD name means Bottom Bracket [location], Speed [sensor], Heavy Duty. If you have been using a BBS02, and it has been getting very hot on your commute…this drive would run cooler under the same loads.

 

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I didn’t find anyone who liked the style of the stock sprocket, but the reps at the Bafang booth sounded very receptive to developing an attractive aluminum spider that would accept chainrings, right from the factory.

 

In June of 2015, Bafang began shipping its popular BBS02 with upgraded FETs (Field Effect Transistors). These are the ON/OFF switches in the controller that allow the motor phases to work. Paul (from em3ev.com) was a vendor for the BBS02, and his biggest complaints from customers were heat-failures of the controller. Paul was already experienced at upgrading his other controllers to the more efficient IRFB 3077 FET, and their improved efficiency allowed them to use the same power while running much cooler.

 

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The stock drive sprocket has a lot of inset to help with the chainline issues that customers have complained about on the BBS02. Also, the wider drop-outs on the rear of the fatbikes helps to give the chainline a straight shot.

 

Paul initially supplied the Bafang factory with 3077 FETs at his cost, for the BBS02 controllers that were being assembled for his monthly orders. The factory was so impressed by the performance improvement, they now ship all BBS02 controllers with the 3077’s. The new 1,000W BBSHD uses twelve of the 3077 FETs, instead of the 9 FETs that its 750W little brother uses, so I fully expect this new drive to actually be capable of using 1500W without overheating. Even so, we still recommend adding an inexpensive temperature sensor to the drives case. The Bafang controllers with 3077 FETs have an “N” as the third digit in the serial number.

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EM3EV.com Double Wide MAC geared hubmotor

Paul at em3ev.com is one of our favorite vendors. Over the last few years, he has continuously added new products to his catalog of E-bike kits and parts. Paul is a native English-speaker who lives in China to ensure he can keep a close eye on quality control, and this also allows him to be very innovative. He was the first vendor that I can remember who began carrying a triangle-shaped battery pack, and after a few other vendors also started carrying a triangle pack, Paul began carrying two different sizes of triangle pack.

This Interbike, he was introducing two products. A double-wide geared hubmotor, and he has also become a dealer for an off-road frame-kit. There have been several new frame-kits introduced over the last few years. Paul felt that there was room for one more off-road E-bike frame-kit that was made with his quality-control ability (because of his location near the factory), and with a price that he felt was more reasonable compared to what’s been available.

 

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The off-road frame kit and 2WD  power system using “double wide” MAC geared hubmotors.

 

The new “double wide” MAC motor is very innovative. It is based on some of the existing parts used to produce the conventional and popular MAC geared hub-motor. It would have been more expensive and heavier to make a geared hub-motor that is larger in diameter, plus doing that would require shorter spokes that result in a harsher nipple angle. So, if you decide you won’t be redesigning it to be larger in diameter, that leaves making it wider in order to get more power.

 

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This demonstrator has a “quick disconnect” axle.

 

The standard stator on the popular MAC motor is 22mm wide, so…how wide could it be made, with some artful design changes? (while still fitting between the common 130mm wide drop-outs?) The most immediately obvious change is that the standard MAC has some airspace between the left side-plate and the brake disc. For any significant width to be added to the stator, the conventional style disc has to be eliminated. If you then widen the motor case on the left side as far as it would go, that provides enough added stator-width to make the extensive mods worthwhile, but…could there still be a way to have a disc brake as an option?

For the new model of MAC to have a disc brake on the left, it would require a proprietary disc and caliper set, so…that is exactly what Paul designed next.

There is more to this than meets the eye. Paul designed-in a larger side-plate bearing on the left side, and the most obvious benefit is that the motor phase cable can now exit the case inside the drop-outs (instead of through a hollow axle). However, this was also an engineering opportunity that Paul didn’t miss. Rather than use the smallest possible bearing, he chose one large enough that he could insert a thick aluminum bushing between the axle and the inner race of the side-plate bearing.

This accomplishes something very interesting. One of the issues with the popular geared hub motors is that the heat that builds up in the stator has a poor heat-shedding path to the outside. It would only take a small improvement in a geared hubmotors’ heat shedding ability to access a lot more power potential. Oil-cooling and ventilating the sideplates have been tried, but…oil inside the motor often finds a way to leak out, and some builders have expressed concerns about dirt and grit getting inside the motors from the ventilation holes.

Since the axle and motor-stator are stationary, the added aluminum bushing is able to easily connect the hot stator core to a thick aluminum disc brake caliper mount that is on the outside. While he was at it, Paul also added an integral torque arm to increase the aluminum thermal mass even more.

 

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This demo sample has a freehub cassette, and the front motor on the 2WD demo ebike had a beefy through-axle.

 

The prototypes shown have steel gears in order to be able to handle the power, and Paul is still developing methods to make it run as quiet as possible. They still use the common 5:1 ratio, meaning the motor will spin 5 times for every time the wheel turns once. The running prototype had a stock-width stator in it, but once the other development issues are settled, the stator can be widened up to twice as much. Even while still using the stock stator, the improvement in the prototype motors’ heat-shedding ability dramatically improved how many amps the motor can use without overheating.

Many upgraded product developers are happy to introduce one or two innovations, but…while Paul was busy designing this new motor, he also machined the prototypes with a “through axle”, which is much stronger than the common 10mm axle-flats in an open drop-out, while trying to fit a custom torque arm to many different frames.

For the rare ebike builder that wants to use 2WD, I always recommend a geared hub for the front wheel, and this new motor is by far the most powerful geared hub available.

I know I have written a lot more on this than any other Interbike subject, but…this is a truly new development.

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Plus-Size Tires, 2.8-3.2 inches wide

There was a noticeable increase of fatbikes a couple of years ago, with most of them using 4-inch wide tires in 26-inch wheels. Last year, the big news was that you could also get the fat wheels and tires in 24-inch and 20-inch.

This year? there has been a huge increase in tires that are halfway between the common 2.5-inch and the fat 4.0-inch. I have seen them called “Plus Sized“, and also semi-fat, or mid-fat. There are not many versions in a street tire yet, but there was a surprising variety in off-road tires.

Duro 26 X 3

Sunlite 26 X 3.5…(plus the tube)

Kenda 20 X 3.0

(On the other end of the scale, I also saw new tire widths between 4.5 to 5.0-inches wide!)

 

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This tire is on a craptastic “Bike Shaped Object” (BSO) in a Walmart. Last year I had a hard time finding tires in this width range, and now there are so many available from the major brands, the generic models are already showing up in the big box stores.

 

I casually polled Interbike attendees at every chance (over 90% were NOT there for the electric bikes), and every person I had talked to had tried the 4.0-inch fat tires fairly soon after they had been introduced years ago, and appreciated the benefits, but…wanted something a little less fat. I now saw 2.8 to 3.2-inch wide tires in 26, 27.5, and 29-inch wheels.

I can appreciate that there is a constant pressure for bikes and their components to be as light as possible, but I am 6-foot tall, and 200-lbs, and I always felt just a little out of proportion on the average bicycle. The 27.5 and 29’r wheels with 3.0-inch tires just look right to me (in spite of the extra weight). And whether you like street E-bikes or off-road…you will be seeing a lot more of these.

Concerning rim widths, an off-road expert insisted that the rim should be about 30% narrower than the tire width, to allow to tire to deform properly and get the maximum amount of footprint and grip.

 

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2WD and Through-Axles

I was surprised that more companies didn’t have a 2WD ebike at their Interbike booth, even if it wasn’t intended for production, but was just there for publicity. I did see two ebikes with 2WD. Doctor Bass from the endless-sphere chat forum (who was at the NYX booth) had one, and also Paul at the em3ev.com booth.

 

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This version of the double wide MAC has a very strong through-axle, and also an integrated torque-arm and brake caliper mount  that doubles as  a heat-sink for the stator.

 

Paul is now marketing an off-road frame kit, and the demonstrator had two of his new double-wide MAC motors, which are geared hub-motors. This allows the motor to spin about 5 times for every wheel rotation, which helps efficiency and allows a smaller and lighter motor to have the same torque as a larger direct drive motor.

 

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From left to right: Hemdan Dizon, Stephane Melancon (Dr Bass) , and Corbin Keegan (from Corbin Fiber Electric Bikes) at the NYX booth. Dr Bass’ 2WD ebike has dual ventilated MXUS direct drive hubmotors, and they were mounted so that he could spin both of them for anyone who was interested.

 

NYX is getting a lot of buzz this year because they are marketing an off-road frame kit that has a lot of carbon fiber in it, to reduce the frames’ weight. Doctor Bass (Stephane Melancon, from Canada) built his up NYX frame with dual MXUS direct drive motors, which are rated for 3000W each, if used in the stock form. Stephane ventilated the side plates, which allows heat to escape. Doing this raises the continuous and peak power capabilities of each motor. He also increased the gauge of the motor phase wires to handle the extra amp-heat.

 

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This is a MXUS 205/H45 V2 direct drive hubmotor. The factory rating is 3000W, but when ventilated to let excess heat out, the contiuous and also temporary peak amps can easily be doubled. Dr Bass had a custom “through axle” machined, and from this angle you can also see the anti-rotation bolt.

 

Another feature that both of these 2WD examples had was…custom machined axles to test a “through-axle” configuration. This style of axle is much stronger than the common type, and this last year they were being seen a lot more often on high-end pedal-only downhill bicycles.

 

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Here is the custom through-axle from Dr Bass’s MXUS front hub motor. The stock axle is on the right. Stronger? Yeah…I think so.

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Bafang Max

Last year, Bafang introduced prototypes of a mid drive that is similar in size and interface as the famous Bosch mid-drive. I don’t think anyone will attempt to claim that the Bafang Max is as good as the Bosch, but…I have ridden it, and it performs very well.

 

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The Bafang Max mid drive.

 

This drive unit also uses a proprietary interface, where the drive unit bolts up to an oval half-shell that must be welded into a frame from the factory. I think this drive will quietly “shake up” the factory turn-key electric bike markets, because…even though the Bosch is widely recognized as higher-quality product that performs seamlessly, lets face it: the Bafang Max performs well enough for most customers, and it is less expensive.

The client that will likely soon benefit quite a bit is Predeco Tech, but…there are also others that I saw with the Max drive.

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Prodeco Tech

This company gets my vote for “most improved” product line over this last year. Three years ago, I didn’t know if Prodeco Tech was going to be able to grow or not. I didn’t want to publicly say anything negative about any company that was trying to sell electric bikes, but…if someone had told me they had announced that they were struggling, I would not have been surprised.

To be fair, they did seem to be expanding and doing OK at that time, but I chalked that up to the fact that they do spend money on advertising, at a time when very few ebike companies are doing that. Plus, we live in an age in North America where many new customers have only recently realized that ebikes even exist.

 

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Prodeco Tech has been making some good choices, and I expect to see good things from them.

 

last year, their product line seemed a little over-priced, and their biggest seller was a simple beach cruiser frame with a 500W rear hub-motor, and the battery was located in a rear cargo rack that was bolted-on (instead of welded). This year they displayed several models that had the removable battery located in the downtube, and they even had a mid-drive. And not just any mid drive, they contracted with the Bafang Max system. This suggests to me that they understand how price sensitive their customers have been, and I think this choice will work out well for them.

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Miscellaneous Pics and Thoughts

The pic below is a custom board-tracker with the faux gas tank opened up to show a selection of liquors, and if you look closely…you’ll even see a sampler-sized whiskey bottle on the air-fill stem.

 

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A custom Boardtracker.

 

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The HPC Revolution is well-designed and well-made. A year ago I would have criticised the battery box as being too small for an adequate size of pack, but this year, cell capacities have dramatically improved.

 

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MHL from Taiwan makes leather cargo cases, seats, and handle-bar grips.

 

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The BionX D-series hubmotor is powerful and silent. This year they had a demo model with clear sides to show how  empty the insides are, since it looks heavy, but really isn’t.

 

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The BESV bikes are stunningly beautiful, and have very sophisticated electronics. However, their power systems are designed for the low-power European market, and the rep didn’t know if they would produce a US-legal 750W system in the future.

 

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The Miele eVox is a beautiful ebike from Canada. The mid-mount motor drives a silent toothed belt on the left side. The motor doesn’t have the use of the bikes gears, and uses a fairly low-powered 500W legal system.

 

 

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This company is supplying a downtube interface so bicycle companies can easily add an integrated battery to their existing frame assembly line. This looks a LOT like the downtube battery interface that Prodeco Tech and Surface 604 is now using…don’t you think?

 

 

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The Copenhagen Wheel has generated a lot of  publicity and excitement the last two years. It is an “all in one” system, where even the batteries are mounted inside the large red hub. The red part spins, and the central white part does not. The flip-out cover with a gray “S” is the charge port.

 

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The eProdigy company from Canada has been making a factory integrated mid drive that provided 500W of power, very similar to the Bofeili drive. They are now making a slightly larger version that is designed to attach to any common bottom bracket, and is based on their “Achiever” brand components. I would expect the performance to be very similar to the popular 750W Bafang BBS02.

 

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This is not an electric bike. The Coast Cycles’ Quinn can hold a laptop computer, a briefcase, or…maybe a HUGE battery pack? Notice how the elevated chainstay allows the designer to use a Gates carbon belt, without having a breakable joint in the frame.

 

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Gotta keep the smart-phone charged up. Even the indoor Interbike is dog-friendly!

 

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After the last day of the convention, there was a group-ride through the streets of Las Vegas, and there ended up being hundreds of riders. If you want to come to the group ride next year, bring a headlight and tail-lights, because it goes on far into the night…

 

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On the left is Matteo Spaggiari, CEO of Bikee, and…on the right is Dave Kaufmann from (*squints eyes) what does his shirt say?

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, September 2015

Holy Horsepower Batman—Turbo Bob Joins the Crew

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Editor note: We are proud to have Turbo Bob join our team. We welcome him and respect his work, even though he has a different take on ebikes than we usually do.  I have spent some time with him and think he is a true believer in ebikes and has no commercial interests or loyalties. He is a good guy on top of it all. 

I do a bunch of fat-tire electric bike stuff, yet they aren’t my favorite type of E-bike.

Yes, I’m a product of the 60’s, dreaming of Hemi Chargers and tire-smoking motorcycles. As a kid, bicycles were as much a passion and transportation freedom, as they were a stepping stone to the gas-burning madness. I fulfilled my needs with all that stinky ICE stuff, some with flat four air-cooled turbo Bugs that easily took on the muscle cars that roamed the local streets. Enter the 90’s and bikes took center stage in my life again. My first E-bike ride took place in that decade, and the last decade has been an E-bike super cruise that doesn’t seem to end.

Many of you know me from my bike blog and videos, using a play on my teenage nickname, Turbo Bob’s Bicycle Blog. For 5 years I have been shooting off my internet mouth on the fun of bicycles, to the tune of E-bikes, folding bikes and vintage bikes. It plays to my personal experiences more than the technical side of all that is two-wheeled. With other sites and even the printed media in my resume, I have added to my reporting footprint in many ways. My 3 sites (that includes Facebook) will continue on as normal, but here I will dive even deeper into the E-bike world.

I posed this shot for an interview with a women on bikes site.

When first approached by Eric & Ron, I figured my easy riding E-bike ways wouldn’t fit here on the ElectricBike.com pages, yet some serious arm-twisting convinced me that a little mellow would balance with their wattage and speed hungry followers. Even though I love a quick blast on some over-powered chain snappers, my everyday rides average maybe about 16 mph. So, I will feed to the smooth crowds, and the fast crowds will feed back to me.

As much as I love reporting on electric-assist bicycles (what they could and should easily be called), much of my interest is in giving feedback to the makers of ready-to-ride machines (to bring about better E-bikes), and educating the world at large what a great transportation alternative E-bikes are (as so many are still uninformed). (Don’t forget the fun, green, and health parts). That is what has fueled my twice-a-year seminar called “Introduction to Electric Bicycles”. With no equal I can find, part of what makes it work is the no sales, no pressure vibe at the event, rules I initiated from the very beginning. All 30 vendors work together to ‘sell’ a ‘lifestyle’ to the 170 or so who come for the knowledge and bike testing

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ST2? I was at the dealer training meetings and had first shot at one.

I’ve dabbled enough with conversions and modifications, still, it is the ready-to-ride E-bikes that fill most of my E-bike pages. I will cover those bikes here, but I will push to expand my own personal power levels, covering more of the stuff you readers like and desire. From what I’ve seen of the articles here, the build-it-yourself peeps rule and dominate most posts, but I have to think that the cruisers like me want a voice too.

The first question many might entertain while reading my stuff about E-bikes could be, “Why should I believe this doofus?” That name could ring true, yet I am really a gearhead from day one. At a very young age I was using the tools my dad had to fix the appliances, repair the TV, and generally learn about every electro-mechanical device that fueled a household back then. He handed down his kit-built HiFis to me when the newest ones cleared his work bench, so that too became a talent that I learned. My bikes came and went, as I bought them second-hand, got them riding nice, and moved onto the next one with each profitable sale.

My wife and I do tons of group rides. That allows me more time on the bikes and to let others give them a try.

Times were different back then, so I was able to earn my own pocket change by selling personalized greeting cards door-to-door, mowing lawns and playing paperboy for many years. With a slew of tools on hand, I perfected my soldering skills, learned circuits and even built my own VOM. By 13 I was our family mechanic for everything from the cars to the water heater. The day I turned 16 I had my own sports car (that I rebuilt from a $75 non-running find), license and insurance, all paid for with funds I earned myself.

Although I didn’t realize what a bad deal it was at the time, that was also the day I put aside my bikes in search of my passion for speed and petrol. It took about 20 years of professional and amateur car and motorcycle racing, modifying and repairs to re-find my love for bicycles (what a wonderful day that was). Those years as a auto mechanic found me also as an avionic aircraft mechanic in the 82nd Airborne, and time spent as a bench electronic technician. The last 20 years of my professional career was spent plying my trade as a sewing machine tech, a skill I also learned when I was a youngster.

Now, bikes are mixed in with my lifelong hobbies of model aircraft building and flying, model railroading and a new found ability as an artist. Exciting too is my wife of 10 years refound love of bicycles. She has been following her goal of protecting the environment long before I met her, and getting her first bike since her childhood during our early months invigorated her in great ways. She is in her 8th year of daily bike commuting on her E-bike (and many of the ones that come and go for test reviews). I can never get her to put paper to pen about her experiences, but get valuable info everyday from her.

This is as much auto as you will see in my posts (thought you’d get a kick out of this old Polaroid). Me during the high school years. My front yard was the local race shop.

My point is, my the years behind me center perfectly with the E-bike world and everything that surrounds it. I have hovered close to being a perfectionist and social outcast because of my driving need of understanding electrical devices—mechanical devices—and electro-mechanical devices (the exact definition of an electric-assist bicycle). Plus my ability to expertly handle 2 and 4 wheel speed machines (bragging?) allows me an even better prospective of what makes a good E-bike. Add to that my fine touch with hand tools and most any kind of controllable device, give me just enough credibility to spout my wisdom. Other Turbo Bob trivia, I am not too computer savvy, I don’t do cell phones, and my Thule T2 bike rack is probably worth more than my 80’s Toyota station wagon (runs great though).

I could go and on about what a great wrench and rider I am, but my last point goes more to the credibility of my reviews and opinions. I have made a point of accepting no cash from the reviews on my sites or with those annoying ads. You will see me wearing some free t-shirts and chowing an occasional free meal, even accepting bike parts and accessories left over after I review them. I was a little concerned that ElectricBike.com supports a store, with unique deals on certain E-bike supplies, yet you can be assured that I am not associated with that aspect, and won’t profit from it either.

So, if you will, join me in welcoming me aboard to ElectricBike.com. Turbo Bob.

“Bicycle means simplicity and simplicity means happiness!”—Mehmet Murat ildan.

You can find my various sites here:

Turbo Bob Bicycle Blog

Turbo Bob’s You-Tube Page

Turbo Bob’s Facebook Page

Introduction to Electric Bicycles—10/13/15—A Unique Event

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Written by Turbo Bob

I am very passionate about electric bicycles, so I can get kind of animated when talking about them.

The parade of electric bikes have been flowing through my event for the last 4 years.  Every spring and fall I am able to gather a large group of people that are considering moving to an E-bike and want to learn more about them.  Along with that crowd is a vast variety of shops and companies that are willing to let them give their ebikes a try. I figure there is one specific reason it is unlike any other I have found, that key is that I keep the event theme, ‘no sales, no pressure’.   I call it “Introduction to Electric Bicycles”, and the popularity of it keeps growing.

In fact, it has grown to the point registrations are usually stopped days before the event, as the large meeting room only has a 170 person capacity.  Luckily the parking lot is big enough to let them all try the 60+ electric bikes of all types and brands that show up for my seminar.  It is quite the scene during that part of the evening, as the smiles and excitement flow like the volts in the bikes.  There are even free door prizes, usually consisting of E-bike rental certificates, bells, lights and three times in the past, actual electric bikes (a pair of Revolights too).

My vision of an electric bike training and learning event came as I was riding my E-bike to the grand opening of this facility.  SDG&E refabbed an old store to top LEED specs and named it the SDG&E Energy Innovation Center.  They do all types of training on solar, low-energy kitchens, water conservation, and you guessed it, electric bikes (thanks to my idea and planning).  By now you are realizing it is my town, San Diego.  The next event is right around the corner, October 13, 2015.   If you miss this one, don’t worry, I’ll do it again next spring.

The center helps me with these very professional flyers. Plus they put out an email blast about the event to hundreds of local customers.

Each time the evening can sport a different vibe, yet they usually roll like this.  As it starts (approx 5 pm), we do a meet and greet, scouting out the electric bikes and potential new friends.  During this time the hot catered meal is enjoyed by all.  A short presentation by the center is followed by my introduction.  Then, I thank all involved and introduce the ‘vendors’ so when riding time comes everyone will be more familiar with bikes and folks that brought them.  The 25-30 ‘vendors’ are about ½ local E-bike shops and ½ the companies that make and offer them.

Most are ready-ride electric bikes, but the DIY types are represented too.  The list of shops, companies and bikes (see below) reads like the who’s who of E-bikes in the So Cal area, yet some come from out of state, and even out of the country to show-off and demo their wares.  This time, like always, there will be some real special bikes and E-bike conversion kits, like the not yet out Stromer ST2S and the now in production Electron Wheel.  It proves to be fresh and new each time, and the electric bikes on hand change like the seasons.

After the dinner and introductions, I spend over an hour explaining electric bikes and the reasons people need and want them.  The door prizes go to the lucky winners every now and then to break the monotony of my droning voice and to keep the crowd on the edge of their seats.  Add in a Q & A session, and then we are ready to move all the bikes outside and ride like the wind until the last pedal is turned (between 8 & 8:30).  This is the part most come for, but the whole night is worth the trip to town.

The group enjoys the inside learning session. Check the videos for the whole room and most of the electric bikes that were there last time.

With so many types of electric bikes, so many sizes and with each one using a different control system, this way you can find just the right fit for you.  It is all in one place, without banging from shop to shop, or searching every internet site for days on end for reviews and insights.  Whether you are really serious about getting an electric bike, or just want to learn more, there is no better way to move forward then to attend my event.

I also have some great guest speakers to help woo the crowd (and so I can get a chance to video the large group and the bikes on hand).  This time again will be Rhonda Martin from “Living Instead of Existing”, who keeps a Facebook page with 33,000 followers.  This will be her 4th time at the podium with her incredible life story that has inspired many to take back their own life’s.  My other speaker this time is yet undetermined, but should be great.  I also get a short video of part of the riding session.

With 60+ electric bikes on hand, this photo just shows a slice of them and the riders—once again, check the video links.

Did I mention it is all free?   Free for the attendees—free for the ‘vendors’—that adds to the no sales, no pressure thing.  This allows the E-bike people to work together to ‘sell’ a lifestyle—not fight over the next sale.  Of course they hope you will become a customer, it just won’t be on this evening.  It also gives them a chance to network with each other, become friends and scout the electric bikes that might be in their shops later in the year.   There is virtually no down side of my event.

One reason I am posting this is to try to promote others to do something similar in their own town  (I would love to see you come, but it always gets a full house, so promoting it here isn’t my main goal).  Still, doing an event like this yourself is worth a try if you have the interest, electric bike knowledge, and the contacts with the makers and sellers of E-bikes.   I have considered taking this show on the road, but finding venues that have the space and the lack of leasing fees can be real tough.  Expect to see me in LA next year doing this, as the plans for that are already in the works.  You will find demo days and road shows doing something similar, yet they all revolve around sales.  Nothing wrong with that, but they will never get the feel of this event, or the massive variety of types and brands of electric bikes.

To register, just go on the SDG&E Energy Innovation website and hit the ‘attend a seminar’ button.  If registrations are cut-off by the time you get to it, you still may be able to attend, if some registered already don’t show (but I can’t guarantee that).  If you are hot to come, don’t wait too long.  And like I said, I do it every spring and fall, so making the next show might be easy.

Here is a list of the shops, companies and electric bikes confirmed to be there (the list is still building).

A2B E-bikes—————Company reps on hand

Adams Avenue Bikes

BionX

Biruni E-bikes————Company reps on hand

Cycle Quest

Electric Bike Central

Electron Wheel———–Company reps on hand

e-Joe E-bikes————-Company reps on hand

Elecycle

E-Motion

E-Prodigy——————-Company reps on hand

eRAD

Faraday———————Company reps on hand

Focus————————Company reps on hand

Green World Bike——–Company reps on hand

Haibike

IZIP

Kalkhoff———————-Company reps on hand

Lectric Cycles————–Company reps on hand

LightMeUp Safety Lights

Magnum

Motiv Electric Bikes———Company reps on hand

Myron’s Extreme Machines

Nori Lights

North County Family Bicycle

Pedego————————-Company reps on hand

Pedego Carlsbad

Pedego Temecula

Polaris

Prodeco Tech

San Diego Electric Bike

Specialized

Stromer–with the new ST2S—-Company reps on hand

Surf Monkey

UC Cyclery

Xtracycle

See you there?   Turbo Bob.

“If I can bicycle, I bicycle.”—David Attenborough.

Repeat of the video links—

The room and bikes

The riding session.

Italdesign Giugiaro creates new flagship ebike for Gazelle

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Royal Dutch Gazelle has been making bicycles since 1902, and they are a global bicycle powerhouse that is based in the Netherlands, but…most North Americans have not heard of them (They are actually the third largest bicycle producer by volume…in the world!). The Netherlands (formerly known as Holland) is one of the most bicycle-friendly places on Earth. Gazelle recently decided to build an upscale mid-drive bicycle, and they hired the famous Italian design studio Italdesign Giugiaro to help them create something stunning.

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Giorgetto Giugiaro 

As a young man in the Italian Army, Giorgetto Giugiaro had a passion for car design, and he hand-made and then personally delivered a plaster model of a car shape to Nuccio Bertone, head the successful Bertone design studio. This was a brash move for an unknown, but his talent was evident even then, and…he got the job.

The average person can be forgiven for not knowing who Giugiaro is, but…he is quite literally the most famous car designer that you’ve never heard of. In fact, the automobile industry awarded him “designer of the century” in 1999.

 

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Giorgetto Giugiaro, patriarch of Italdesign Giugiaro

 

During his stay at Bertone (from 1960 to 1965), his most famous design was the 1963 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT, which really impressed everyone in the Italian school of car design at the time.

 

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The 1963 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT

 

This energetic and impressive young man then accepted a job offer from the prestigious Ghia design studio, where he worked from 1966 to 1968. His first design job at Ghia was the Maserati Ghibli. It has been cited as the major influence over automobile design at the time (including the 1968 Chevrolet Corvette and the 1971 Ferrari Daytona), and it made him even more famous.

 

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The 1966 Maserati Ghibli

 

In 1968, Giorgetto Giugiaro formed his own design studio, Italdesign Giugiaro. Future VW Chairman Ferdinand Piëch was an apprentice at Italdesign Giugiaro as a young man in 1972, and this must have been a good sign, because Giugiaro and VW collaborated on two of their most memorable successes; the 1974 VW Golf/Rabbit, and the Scirocco.

 

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The 1974 VW Golf/Rabbit and the Scirocco

 

The success of the Golf/Rabbit and the Scirocco heralded-in the “folded paper” era of car design. the next milestone was the father of the mini-van, and…as pedestrian and unexciting as that might seem, it was a visionary leap that was ahead of its time. In 1976, Giugiaro designed the Alfa Romeo “New York Taxi” prototype, which resulted in a production model named the Mega-Gamma.

It was boxy, but it used an existing chassis and drivetrain, with a body shape that very efficiently provided a comfortable riding position for the passengers, and also employed a variety of clever cargo solutions. Just a short while later, the famous automobile executive Lee Iacocca (who was a fan of the Italian school of design) left Ford to salvage the then-struggling Chrysler, and the second design he funded was a very successful minivan, called the Dodge Caravan.

In 1976, the British sports car company Lotus hired Giugiaro to design what would become the Lotus Esprit. It played a prominent role in the 1977 James Bond movie “The spy who loved me”.

 

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The 1976 Lotus Esprit

 

The next most notable model designed by Giugiaro was the 1981 DeLorean DMC-12, which became infamous after a scandal involving the company founder, John DeLorean, who had previously been an executive at General Motors, and had designed the Pontiac GTO. A DeLorean DMC-12 was then used in the famous 1985 comedy “Back to the future”.

The cars designed or influenced by Giugiaro are too numerous to list all of them here, but several note-worthy milestones are the 2003 Lamborghini Gallardo, the 2004 Toyota Volta hybrid, the 2005 Alfa Romeo 159, the 2005 Ferrari GG50, and the 2016 Giugiaro Brivido.

 

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2003 Lamboghini Gallardo

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The Gazelle Electric Bicycle

The first promotional pics of this ebike were released showing the Dutch King Willem-Alexander riding it (with Queen Maxima). There is very little information, and very few pictures released, but we will find out what we can.

 

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The global headquarters for Gazelle are located where they started, in the Netherlands. Which is quite possibly the most bicycle-friendly country on Earth.

 

The motor is the well-regarded Bosch mid-drive system which provides a smooth and seamless application of power, using a torque-sensing crankset (so we have assumed it uses 48V). The rear hub is a fully encapsulated IGH, the NuVinci Harmony 380, which is shifted electronically, and can even be shifted at a complete stop. In keeping with the Dutch street laws, this ebike is a full pedelec design, where the motor only supplies power if the pedals are moving, and there is no hand-throttle option available.

 

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A Gazelle is a very swift type of antelope, and the Gazelle bicycle company logo has had its horns modified to include an electric plug! The headlight has been integrated into the front of the fender for a less cluttered look.

 

The most striking feature at first glance is that the entire frame uses carbon-fiber in every possible place, even in the wheel-spokes and rims. This makes this model extremely light and strong, but also…very expensive!

Another upscale feature is the Gates carbon belt (instead of a chain), which does not need any lubrication, and runs very clean and silently.

 

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Although the Netherlands has a low power limit on street-legal ebikes, we expect that this flagship model will perform quite well and make the most possible torque from the allowable watts. The thin red line is a classic Giugiaro signature.

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The 2015 Gazelle, ridden here by the king of the Netherlands.

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Piaggio’s new mid drive

Yamaha YPJ-01 light-weight mid drive

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, October 2015

 

New California Ebike Laws, Overvolted.com, and the IMBA

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The website “Overvolted.com” is one of the sources of information I check occasionally, and they recently reposted an article by Cameron Newland about changes to California’s ebike laws. California is known to be somewhat “environmentally friendly”, so anything that they do immediately draws a lot of attention. Most states are content to sit back and wait until some other state tries a few things out, and then has their court system wrestle over the legality of recent changes. That way, the states who are waiting on the sidelines can save a lot of time and money if they let someone else set the legal precedents for any evolving issue.

[If you are in a hurry and want the “too long; didn’t read” (TLDR) version, scroll directly to the bottom of this article]

The laws concerning ebikes still vary quite a bit from one state to the next (here in the USA), but…this recent clarification of ebike law in such a large and influential state is something that will likely help standardize laws across the US, and also advertise that it is now safe to start embracing ebikes as an alternative form of transport in those areas where they are appropriate.

 

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Chart courtesy of nybc.net, who is working hard right now in 2015 to improve ebike laws in New York.

 

I’m reposting this with Overvolted.com’s permission to help draw attention to this milestone in ebike law stabilization, and also to help Overvolted get a higher level of public awareness. Parts of the original article were also reposted on another one of our favorite websites, electric-fatbike.com

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Governor Brown Signs California Electric Bike Bill into Law

by Cameron Newland

According to the California Bicycle Coalition, Governor Jerry Brown has signed one of the United States’ most progressive electric bicycle laws, which allows 28MPH-capable electric bikes in bike lanes and allows low-power, pedal-assist electric bikes to use bike paths except when prohibited by local law.

The legislation was a contentious one within the electric bike industry, as a large contingent of electric bike brands spearheaded by Accell North America executive Larry Pizzi prevailed in getting support for their bill over legislation that was supported by California-based Pedego. The disagreement between Pizzi and Pedego has everything to do with throttles: Pizzi’s contingent argued for treating throttle bikes differently than pure pedelecs (electric bikes with pedal-assist only), whereas Pedego, which sells to an older buyer demographic that prefers throttle bikes, argued for wording that was more favorable to manufacturers of throttle bikes.

 

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This chart shows California agreeing with, and solidifying a legal trend in Federal law. If you are using PAS (applying power that is actuated by pedaling), you can legally have power up to 28-MPH (45-km/h). But, if you like a hand-throttle, you can only legally apply power on a street ebike up to 20-MPH (32-km/h)

 

Why the scorn toward throttles? It likely comes down to mountain bike trail access. If electric mountain bikes were to gain expanded off-road trail access, the electric mountain bike market would would see a corresponding increase in sales which would benefit ebike manufacturers. One of the biggest roadblocks to this expanded trail access for ebikes is the criticism coming from current trail users: mountain bikers and trail-going equestrians.

These groups argue that electric bikes are heavier and that they could damage trails more than mountain bikes do (though preliminary studies indicate this fear us mostly unwarranted). One way that the electric bike industry could make electric bikes seem less destructive to trails would be to remove throttles from the bikes that are allowed on these trails, and also to limit power output so as to reduce the potential for trail damage from the spinning of tires.

This bill, though ostensibly concerning electric bikes on roads and bike paths, also accomplishes some of the electric bike industry’s off-road goals, classifying electric bikes sold in the state so that in the future, one class might one day gain trail access and ignite a new phase of industry growth.

So what does the new law do, exactly?

First off, it clarifies the state’s laws on electric bikes that travel in excess of 20MPH and allows for the use of 28MPH-capable Class 3 electric bikes (a.k.a. S-pedelecs) on public roads, whereas before the law’s passing, federal law stated that the maximum assisted speed for an electric bike was 20MPH.

Helmet use for Class 3 electric bikes is required, and helmets will also be required for any electric bike rider under the age of 18. Class 3 electric bikes cannot be ridden by anyone under the age of 16, and Class 3 ebikes will also be banned from using Class 1 bike paths (a.k.a. ‘multi-use paths’) but may use bike lanes and protected bike lanes on public roadways.

Class 2 electric bikes that are equipped with a throttle and that can function even without pedaling will be limited to a top assisted speed of 20MPH, however, they will be permitted on bike paths, unlike their faster Class 3 counterparts.

With the successful campaign for the passing of the California law over with, the electric bike industry will now move onto lobbying other large states with restrictive electric bike laws, including New York and Michigan.

[end of repost]

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These are the good guys for off-road ebikes.

These are the good guys for off-road ebikes.

 

International Mountain Biking Association (IMBA)

While researching for this article, I found some info about the IMBA. I was so used to getting instant hate from any bicycling organization (whether for road bikes or off-road), that I never really looked much at any of their publications, even when ebikes were mentioned (ebikes are cheating! the lazy bastards…).

I was pleasantly surprised at the position of the IMBA on off road ebikes. Trails will experience a certain amount of wear and tear from off-road bicycles, and the IMBA funded a study and published a fact that we already knew. E-bikes don’t cause any more damage than regular bicycles.

The one area where ebikes seem to be getting some traction, is to help riders get to the top of a downhill (DH) run (recently called a single-track). Like snow-skiing, the downhill part is fun and exhilarating, but…getting to the top without a “lift” is exhausting.

I recall many years ago reading a snow-skiing magazine that reprinted an article from many years ago, when the larger resorts had first begun to build lifts for their customers. Snow ski purists were publicly lamenting that now…skiers would not have to hike to the top of the mountains. Just anybody could start snow skiing, and adding lifts would obviously lead to the best runs getting more crowded.

 

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Down-hilling and single-track courses are now big business, and I think they will be around for the foreseeable future.

 

It was only a couple of decades ago that ski resorts began using ski runs in the summer to host down hill mountain-bike runs, in order to make some money in the slow summer months by using the same properties. Now there are elaborate and exciting single-track runs that are not used for anything else.

It was a breath of fresh air to see an organization like IMBA publicly supporting ebikes in a very reasonable manner. I am mentioning them here because they deserve credit and more recognition for their efforts. They are one of the good guys.

Kudos to the IMBA, the California Bicycle Coalition, People for Bikes, nybc.net, Accel/Currie, and Pedego

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What does ElectricBike.com Say?

We are now living in a golden age for electric bike enthusiasts. Most police are too busy looking at cars, and most of the time don’t see any difference between a pedal-bike or an electric bike when they pass by. If they were ticketing electric bikes for misbehaviour, it doesn’t bring in much revenue, so you would have to cause an accident with serious injuries before they would start caring.

Don’t get me wrong, we don’t approve of hooligan riding in traffic…we’re just saying that if you are riding a little too fast, and using an illegal 1200W on the street, and yet…you are riding safely? The police are not trying to hunt you down. At least…not yet. (please ride safely! we want this attitude to last as long as possible!)

Over time we have seen several trends evolve organically, without any laws guiding them. Off-roaders seem to like having a hand-throttle option, so they can do a slow crawl over a technical obstacle without needing to reposition their pedals for the next “nudge”. There are controllers that have both a PAS option coupled with a hand-throttle. I tried these at Interbike, and I liked having both.

 

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Here is one example of a speed sensing PAS. This model uses 12 small magnets that pass by the frame-mounted sensor, and this forms a type of “throttle” to apply power to the wheel.

 

PAS is a Pedal Assist System. This means when the pedals start moving, the controller senses that and applies power to the motor. there are two types right now. A “speed sensing” system uses a ring of magnets on one side of the bottom brackets pedal-axle. As those magnets pass by the frame-mounted sensor, the controller can tell which direction the pedals are moving, and how fast they are moving. These are the most common due to low price, and are more often found on affordable street ebikes.

The second PAS style is a “torque sensing” system. They are more expensive and less-common, but they are often found on upscale off-road ebikes. They have a more instant and smoother transition of applying power.

 

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Here is one example of a torque-sensing PAS from TDCM. Another well-regarded model is from Thun. They both use a sensitive “strain gauge” mounted directly on the axle, which flexes a tiny amount when pressure is applied to the pedals.

 

If we must have ebike laws, the new California laws are not bad. And…now that we are starting to see a large and influential state like California clarifying and enacting laws that are inline with the federal regs? We can move on to the next phase of of the evolution of ebike laws, the part where lawsuits resulting from accidents further modify and solidify our ebike laws into something more like their eventual final form.

We’re not talking about denting your front wheel rim on a car bumper…an accident involving a bicyclist and a car can result in someone ending up in the hospital, or even dead. Also, if you hit a pedestrians at 28-MPH, it wouldn’t make the accident less harmful if you were on a pedal-only bicycle, or a legal PAS electric bike, but…if you have an electric bike with a hand throttle, how will you prove you were not using the hand throttle when insurance lawyer tries to blame you for the injuries?

Liability insurance and lawsuits are why Europe insists on laws for street ebikes with low speed limits and also PAS-only throttles. Over there, you can pedal 40-MPH if you want, but…you can only get motor-power by pedaling, and only getting that up to 16-MPH. Any speeds above 16-MPH you will be using all leg power.

Depending on the country, the power limit in the European Union (EU) is anywhere from 250W up to 500W, which is nuts. If you are riding safely and obeying the speed laws, why would anyone care how much power you are using? What about a fully-loaded cargobike with a child and two bags of groceries in the mountains? The federal law in the USA is a power limit of 750W, and hilly Oregon allows a much more reasonable 1000W.

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Back to the New Laws in California

Riders 17 and under must wear a helmet, and cannot go over 20-MPH (32-km/h) no matter what type of ebike they are on.

Ebikes with a hand-throttle can only use that throttle to apply power up to 20-MPH (32-km/h).

Ebikes with a PAS capability can legally ride a PAS-equipped ebike on the public roads up to 28-MPH (45-km/h)

28-MPH capable PAS ebikes are illegal for any rider that is 16 and under.

Helmets…everyone must wear a helmet and can receive a citation for not wearing a helmet on public roads, except for: pedal-only bicyclists who are 18 or older. Ebike in California = helmet.

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, November 2015

 

 

 


ShareRoller, a great 750W friction drive

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This is the most impressive friction drive I’ve seen so far, and its about to go into production. It uses a battery pack made from the very safe 18650-format cells that we love (found on safe and reliable cordless tools), and it has several very clever design features that I think will change a lot of peoples minds about what a friction drive is capable of. It provide 750 watts of power, which is the US legal power limit, and I have personally run a friction drive of my own design up to 1000W before it began to loose traction, so this is a very balanced design.

 

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More major cities are trying out a Bike Share program, where rental bikes are very cheap, and you can lock them up at racks that are scattered all over the city. Rent the bike in one place, and lock it up in another, while you only pay for the actual time you used it.

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Bike Share Programs

The “Share” part of the ShareRoller is a reference to how many large cities are now using a “Share Bike” program. These are bicycles that can be rented very cheaply, and when you reach your destination, you simply set them into a nearby Share Bike rack, and you are only charged for the time that you used it. Having these bikes available in the congested cities will reduce the need for workers to drive their cars in, so it relieved a great deal of congestion.

The Netherlands is very “bike friendly”, but they actually have a lot of bicycle congestion. By having a program were each bike can service the needs of several people throughout the day, a modern city can have fewer cars, and also…fewer bicycles.

 

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A bicycle parking structure in the Netherlands. Bike friendly? Oh yeah…I think so! Gasoline is about $8/gallon there.

And this brings us to the ShareRoller. The Bike Share bicycles are very robust and durable, in order to withstand years of abuse, and that means they are heavy. Many Bike Share bicycles are a single-speed, or at best a 7-speed…in order to simplify maintenance and repair. So pedaling one of them can get very sweaty, especially during a very humid summer! It’s no surprise to us that office workers didn’t embrace that user-model as much as the designers hoped they would.

This creates a dilemma. If the Bike Share bicycles had an electric power system added, the municipal program that administers them would have the added expense, maintenance, and repair headaches…which they were reluctant to take on. One issue is that renters often abuse equipment in a way that they would never do if the device was owned by them.

Psychologists call this the “tragedy of the commons”. If everyone “owns” something (a “shared” resource) then, no particular person is responsible for upkeep and care. For instance, if getting a flat tire on a Bike Share only means that you put one bike back in the rack, and just check out a different bike (at no extra charge), then…the rider has no incentive to avoid riding over nails and debris. Not that you would ride over sharp objects on purpose. Its just that…most people in that situation would ride without any extra care or concern.

So…we now find ourselves in a situation where these great programs are under-utilized because the bikes themselves are built like tanks. The bikes can take any abuse customers dish out, but how can they be made more usable so we can get more people to actually use them, instead of just talking about how great the program is?

The ShareRoller could have initially been rolled out as a friction-drive for the masses (and later, a variation designed for Bike Shares), but their initial push has been directly aimed at Bike Share programs, and I think that was a great decision.

By designing it to snap onto Bike Shares, it can then easily be adapted onto the publics personal bikes with almost no changes other than an inexpensive adapter to make it fit your individual model of bike. This also creates a situation where many people who are unsure, or unaware about electric bikes…they will see ShareRollers being used, and may even ask their friend to allow them to take a test-ride.

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The initial primary market for the ShareRoller is all of the Bike Share bicycles, and there are quite a few out there already, with more on the way.

 

There are over 15 major cities that use the PBSC/Bixi “Share Bike” interface that ShareRoller was designed for (which is used in the USA, Canada, Mexico, UK, and Australia!).

 

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The ShareRoller can be adapted onto just about any common bicycle frame, and here it is on one of my favorite commuters, the Electra Townie.

 

 

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The ShareRoller will even attach to a kick-scooter, which can be folded and carried on just about any train or bus, for a very handy commuter transport solution.

 

 

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This pic shows the ShareRoller about to snapped onto the locking lug that Bike Shares come with. This mounting/locking interface has been standardized in many major cities that are moving in this direction…the already existing market for the ShareRoller is huge!

 

 

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Here, the ShareRoller is being shown with the yellow rubber sleeve that helps the drive unit maintain traction, even when occasionally running through an unexpected puddle.

 

 

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This pic shows the very light and compact ShareRoller when it is completely folded up, next with the motor flipped-out, and then fully deployed onto a full-sized bicycle.

 

 

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Another close-up to show the details when it is mounted on a kick-scooter. You can use the ShareRoller on a solid-rubber tire that is found on some fold-up kick-scooters, but I much prefer pneumatic tires to smooth-out sidewalk irregularities.

 

 

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The central drive unit contains the controller, the motor (which also acts as the roller), and the small twin LED headlights. There are three different sizes of battery, so you can choose light, small, and less expensive, or…longer range. The packs are 6S / 22V, and each battery has a USB port for charging smart-phones or any other 5V device, like a GPS…

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Indiegogo

The device has been fully prototyped and endurance-tested. The designer is launching an Indiegogo crowd-funding campaign to speed up the move into full production. But, don’t worry about if this innovative product will make it or not…he met his funding goal in the first four days!

My initial interest in friction drives several years ago was for local college-students, who couldn’t take their bicycle indoors at night, either because their was no room inside their rental, or they lived in an upper story dorm or apartment. With one of these, you can leave a cheap bike locked up outside, and bring the entire drive unit and battery inside to charge it. It pops on and off quickly and easily.

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Wireless Throttle

When I first viewed the video ride-review (link below), two things jumped out…the designer is incredibly smart and very articulate, and also…this kit needs a wireless throttle. Well, as I continued my research, I found out that the wired version in the video is the initial first version (V1), and the Indiegogo campaign is for the newest V2 with a bluetooth wireless throttle…I had a good idea that it would be upgraded eventually, but the designer has decided that this kit needs the upgrade before the unit goes into production…good choice!

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Links
Here is a link to their home web-page, and…

Here is a link to a video-review from Electric Bike Review (EBR) by Court Rye.

Here is a link to their Indiegogo campaign, which ends November 18th, so if you want one, there’s not much time left to get “early bird” discount pricing.

Here is my friction drive from five years ago (2010), so you will understand that I am not just blowing smoke up your caboose when I say this is the best friction drive out there. I know what I am talking about here…

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, November 2015

 

 

Haibike Xduro E-Bike Review

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Editor note: The following review is a repost of Joe Goodwill’s awesome review on the Haibike. Nice job with excellent pictures.  For the full review go here:  Its wonderful when a non ebike fanatic writes a review or a new and different perspective. Even the idea of riding an ebike is radical. 

 

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Blasphemy! I have tested an electric-assist mountain bike. Brace for hate mail and death threats! If you have read this far after coming to the conclusion that NSMB.com is endorsing these bikes for use on mountain bike trails (and many will not read this far before unleashing the hate) you can put the pin back in the grenade. A test does not an endorsement make, and forming an opinion requires knowledge of the subject. Beyond that, I personally think e-bikes are here to stay, particularly in urban environments, and they are likely coming to our trails in at least modest numbers in the coming years. If we decide they are the enemy we’re going to need to know something about them. If not we are as well.

Talking about E-bikes on a mountain bike site without talking about THE ISSUE is like discussing marijuana while ignoring its fluid legal status. It can be done but it’s a cop out (Washington State has it right, for the record). If you’d only like to hear about how this bike rides, feel free to skip the commentary below.

For the rest of this awesome article go here…. nice to see a commercial  electric bike review with good writing and good pics and does not seem paid for.

 

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Triangle battery pack roundup, all different sizes

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If you have decided to get a triangle-shaped battery pack for your ebike, this article is about where to find the different sizes, so…whether you have a small frame triangle space, or a large one…here are the options available to builders as of November of 2015.

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Why choose a Triangle pack?

Even if you’re not an engineer, most people can immediately appreciate how a builder deciding to move the weight of the battery pack to the center of the bicycle will make it handle better, plus, most slender “cargo rack” battery packs don’t have a huge amount of range.

If you bought an ebike a few years ago, the stock battery will be getting a little old right about now. When its time to replace the worn stock battery pack, choosing a central triangle battery will make the bike ride a lot better, and…it might give you the option of dramatically increasing the range.

 

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Cargo-rack packs are still fairly common (I just threw up in my mouth a little). Don’t be this guy.

 

When its time to get a new battery, you might even have the option of raising the voltage (depending on the controller) from the common 36V up to 48V or 52V, with no danger to the rest of the system.

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What Voltage?

Last year, there were not as many choices when it came to the cells that are inside the battery packs. The ebike industry had recently changed over to almost all of them using the very safe 18650-format cells (cylindrical, 18mm diameter, 65mm long), which are the type of cells found in cordless tools. Due to a variety of factors, this last summer there was a boom in variety of high-capacity and high-current cells. This meant that ebikers no longer had to use a huge and heavy battery pack to get high-performance, or longer range.

If you live where the terrain is relatively flat, you would probably be satisfied with an affordable 36V system, but…our experience and frequent polling indicates that anyone who falls in love with ebiking here in the USA, they will typically want a little more power on their second ebike. This usually means moving up to a 48V system, and recently we researched and wrote about the trend of using a 52V system, and the benefits of doing that.

Many years ago, the only option to get high performance was to go to a very high voltage system. Frame space on a bicycle will always be at a premium, so…using more cells to get higher voltages often meant having short range. Now, there are many high-current cell options. The new ability to choose high voltage or high current opens up an entirely new world of ebike system design and component selection.

 

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18650-format cells have taken over in the ebike battery pack market. The BMS is the flat device that has all of the thin white wires coming out of it.

 

There will always be a place for 60V-100V systems in the hot rod world, but most ebikers have ended up being happy with 1200W as an affordable and reliable daily commuter. Higher voltage components are less efficient, so they produce more waste-heat, so where’s the sweet-spot? I am on a kick to promote 52V ebike batteries and power systems (14 cells in series/14S), and here’s why…

If you are getting our recommended 1200W from 36V, then you’d be drawing about 33-amps (and its the amps that cause most of the heat in an electrical power system). But, if you bump up the voltage in your system to 52V, then you can get the very satisfying 1200W from only 23-amps! A low amp-draw means a cooler running battery, controller, and motor. Also…you will actually get more range from the same battery.

Well…what if we decide on getting a second ebike, but we want to really cut loose and build a fun weekend hot rod? If we still limit ourselves to using efficient and cooler-running components that operate on a 52V /14S system, there are affordable and available components that can run 50A, so 52V X 50A = 2600 watts of power!

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List of Triangle Battery Sizes

The picture at the top of this article is a cheap Walmart Genesis V2100 frame, and because of the rear shock absorber being mounted inside the triangle, the space for a triangle pack is very limited. If you count the cells in the pic, there are 100, but that case doesn’t have a Battery Management System (BMS) crammed into it yet, so the final configuration will actually have to be made from a few less cells than what the pic shows.

If you take a set number of cells, they can be configured into series groups and parallel groups. The Series groups control how many volts that pack will put out, and…the individual cell-capacity times the number of cells in the parallel groups determines the amount of Amp-hours (Ah) that a pack will have.

The cell-type that the pack manufacturer has chosen has a dramatic effect on the current-output capability of the pack, and also the amount of Amp-hours of range (so, two packs with the exact same number of cells can have widely different amounts of range and amps they can safely produce)

The volts times the Amp-hours equals the “Watt hours” of a pack, which is a measure of power density. For example, a 48V pack times 15-Ah = 720-Wh

The BMS’s are all about the same size (typically a flat green circuit board), so…it is the number of cells that determines the physical size of the pack. For that reason I am listing these selections in order of physical size.

I was able to find triangle packs with cell-counts of 84, 91, 104, 112, 117, 126, 128, and 140, and here’s a breakdown:

48V = 91, 104, 117

52V = 84, 91, 112, 126

60V = 128

75V = 147

On to the list!…

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84 cells, em3ev

52V__14S/6P

22P cell___12.3-Ah___25A

25R cell___14.7-Ah___40A (60A peak)

29E cell___16.5-Ah___25A

 

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If you have a small frame triangle space, this might be your only option, an 84-cell pack.

 

We want our published opinions to be trusted, because we care about the ebike community. Paul at em3ev.com is a vendor we can recommend without hesitation. He has worked for years to establish a reputation for great customer service and quality products. He was the first vendor I can recall to start servicing the ebike community with triangle packs. And…when another vendor began carrying triangle packs? Paul began providing them in two sizes!

His 84-cell pack is very small (the smallest we could find!), and depending on the cell type, it can still provide 16.5-Ah or range, or a 40A continuous/60A peak performance. You will have to use a 52V / 14S system to get the benefits of this pack, but…once you try out 52V, I don’t think you’ll want to go back to anything less.

All of Pauls new battery packs have individual cell-fusing, so if any particular cell starts to have a runaway heat event, its power will automatically be cut.

Here’s our article where we were promoting Paul’s triangle packs way back in October of 2013. We are not just jumping on the triangle battery pack band-wagon now, we have leading the parade for a long time!

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91 cells, Calibike

48V 15-Ah__13S/7P

I haven’t heard anything bad about Calibike, but…I also haven’t heard…well, ANYthing about them. If anyone reading this has a Calibike triangle pack, please post about it to endless-sphere, so the ebike community can collect more information about your experience with them.

I did some math, and it “looks like” they are using a 2200-mAh cell. They are rating this pack at 20A continuous and 35A peak. So, 20A from a 7P string is 2.8V per cell.

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91 cells, Luna Cycle

48V/21-Ah__13S/7P

In the interests of full disclosure, electricbike.com is owned by Eric, the same person who owns Luna Cycle LLC.

A while back, Eric was looking at the battery options for his longtail cargo fat-bike. As the owner of electricbike.com, he has travelled to China in person, and he attends the Interbike industry conventions. Since he is constantly in contact with industry leaders and the information they have, he was surprised that battery pack retailers were not upgrading their packs to the newest cells as quickly as he knew they could.

As of the summer of 2015, a very small and “fittable” pack could be made that uses cells which provide decent range, and also…an insane amount of amps.

em3ev already makes an awesome 84-cell pack to fit the smallest frame triangles, but what about frames that have a little bit more room than that? Eric wants to increase the choices available to the ebike community, so adding one more parallel string results in a 91-cell pack.

 

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Luna is currently the only retailer selling battery packs with this cell.

 

Someday, there will be even more choices than this, but…if 91 cells was going to be Luna’s small pack, Eric decided to stuff it with the absolute newest “Beast” cell..the HG2, from LG-Chem in South Korea. It puts out the same 20A per cell as the hot rod Samsung 25R, but it has 3000-mAh of capacity…meaning 20% more range.

If you are using a BMS that does not restrict the output amps, a cell that is capable of putting out 20A, times 7 cells in parallel (7P) = 140A. One hundred…and forty…freakin..amps. This means if you are only pulling 70A from this pack, it will barely get warm.

Speaking of high amps, Eric’s BMS has a temp probe and over-temp protection on every pack.

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104 cells, Luna Cycle

48V/20-Ah__13S/8P

In the pack above, Eric chose the absolute best performing cell available. But what if you could be happy with a little less performance, and also wanted to pay a little less to help with your budget? After evaluating many different options, Eric chose the Samsung 26F cell as his “best value” option.

Although this pack is “only” 48V, it has eight cells per parallel group (8P). The 26F cell is rated to safely provide 5A continuous, so eight of them will produce 40A continuous and roughly 60A as a temporary peak.

 

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All of Luna’s new battery packs as of the publishing of this article will have a digital voltage read-out.

 

All of Luna Cycles’ battery packs come with a voltage read-out. The 5 bars in the pic above shows that this battery is fully charged, and the 54.2V read-out indicates that this is a 48V / 13S pack.

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112 cells, Luna

52V/20-Ah__14S/8P

This pack uses that same Samsung 26F cell in the pack above, so it also uses the 8P configuration to provide 40A continuous with 60A peaks.

However, this pack adds a few more cells for those buyers who have enough frame room to keep the 52V systems we are promoting. This is the most affordable option for the 52V X 50A systems I discussed at the beginning of this article.

 

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The large pack from Luna Cycle LLC

 

BUT WAIT…There’s more!

112 cells, Luna

52V/20-Ah_14S/8P_25R

If your frame has room for a 112-cell triangle pack…and 40A/60A just isn’t going to satisfy your itch? Eric made sure that his 112-cell triangle pack will have a Samsung 25R cell option. At 20A per cell, and 8 cells per parallel group? That’s 160A

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117 cells, Calibike

48V 20-Ah__13S/9P

They list 20-Ah from 9P = 2200-mAh per cell

They are rating this pack at 30A continuous, 50A peak. Also, at 30A for 9P, that would be 3.3A per cell.

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126 cells, em3ev

52V__14S/9P

22P cell___18.5-Ah___40A

25R cell___22.1-Ah___100A

29E cell___24.8-Ah___40A

 

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em3ev.com’s 126-cell pack in their large battery bag, on a 17-inch tall frame.

 

Paul is conservative with his amp-ratings, and that allows his customers to have a very cool-running battery, which will provide the maximum possible range and life. Here is the performance quote from his website:

  • We recommend controllers of up to 40A are used with the 29E equipped packs. With 25Ah capacity, 40A discharge is only 1.6C. For the 22P Pack, these can also be used with a 40A controller, but both the 22P and 29E packs are more comfortable operating at slightly lower discharge rates. If long term continuous discharge rate is close to or exceeding 40A, the high power 20R or 25R cells should be considered. With a 20R or 25R pack, the BMS is the limiting factor. The 20R and 25R cells deliver High Current effortlessly, with little voltage sag and also tends to maintain a higher voltage at the end of the discharge, with a flatter discharge curve.
  • BMS Protection Current >100A.

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126 cells, Hallomotor

52V/26Ah__14S/9P

I haven’t found any info yet about Hallomotor, except that they sell ebike kits and batteries. They are claiming that they are using the Panasonic NCR18650PF 2900-mAh cell, which is well-regarded and rated for 10A.

For performance, they are rating this pack at 78A continuous, and 130A peak.

 

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26-Ah is a LARGE battery pack.

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128 cells, Kinaye Motorsports

60V/23-Ah__16S/8P

I have been tracking kinaye from the time they first started selling components to the high performance ebike market. Barent, their owner, is a frequent poster on the endless-sphere.com discussion forum, and Kinaye is based in Belleview, Washington. His 60V triangle pack has a 6-week lead time, and uses the well-regarded Samsung 29E cell. He rates this pack for 50A continuous, and 80A peak.

 

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Here’s a screen-grab from Kinayes catalog.

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140 cells, Calibike

72V 15Ah__20S/7P

I will keep an eye out for any info on Calibike battery packs. They appear to have sold many rectangle packs, and are now offering several sizes of triangle-packs.

 

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I don’t know anyone who has posted their experience with Calibike triangle packs, but…they exist.

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147 cells, ebikessf.com

75V/13.3-Ah__21S/7P

Ilia from ebikessf in San Francisco has been a respected and reliable vendor of electric bike components for over a decade.

He only has one triangle pack option. The Samsung 20R cell has slightly less capacity than the famous 25R, but it also provides 22A per cell, so…8 cells in parallel (8P) would be 176A

 

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This is the very large pack from ebikessf.com

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This is a Sondors fat-bike, and the pack shown is a very large 48V / 30-Ah pack.

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Triangle Bags

The first triangle bag I can recall ever seeing was the Falcon-EV bag (which are still available). Even if you had a common rectangle shaped battery, it helped hide the battery and the wiring for a less-cluttered look, plus keeping the power-system weight centered (of course).

As soon as em3ev.com began selling triangle packs, they immediately also offered a triangle bag. But now, there are many choices.

 

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Eric’s fatbike from many years ago with the only triangle bag available at the time, from Falcon-EV.

 

If you decide to use an available triangle bag instead of building a hard-case…I strongly recommend you add padding and some thin side-panels. I have seen reinforcement panels made from polycarbonate, 1/4-inch plywood, lexan, and whatever else was cheaply available from a local supplier (no sheet-metal, though…it conducts electricity in case of a short that resulted from a crash or chafing).

 

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This is the Ibera “medium” size. Their small bag is too small for any of these triangle packs.

 

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Paul at em3ev.com was an early pioneer in making triangle packs and bags available.

 

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The latest entry into the triangle bag market is Luna Cycles.

 

Most of the triangle bags available use wide velcro strips to attach them to the frame. Luna Cycles also has a bag with reinforced edge panels and holes with metal eyelets to allow the builder to use zip-ties, which is an option that works surprisingly well.

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, November 2015

Luna Cycle’s Black Friday Party

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Luna Cycles has announced some Black Friday specials, which marks down some already low prices.

Luna Cycle Black Friday Sale click here

Who is Lunacycle.com? First read this unbiased review on luna written by the excellent reviewer Karl at electic-fatbike.com   By the way Karl and I are friends now but I had no idea who he was back when he wrote that. Karl’s Site is awesome and I see electric-fatbike.com as a fantastic ebike resource. If you guys are gonna leave me at least leave me for him.

Speaking of straight…Ok let me get this straight because this is the first time I have announced the Luna Cycles store on electricbike.com.  I started electricbike.com and ran it advertisement-free for years because I believe in DIY Ebikes. But for the last few years I  have watched the DIY  industry go totally stagnant and got sick of sitting on the sideline as only a witness. Now I have started Lunacycle.com.

I cannot stand to see commercial bikes become a better deal than DIY bikes and that is what I have seen clearly happening.  It use to be that a commercial bike was a terrible value compared to a DIY bike, and lately that tide is changing. When trying to source a decent  battery pack for my own bike just last year, I could not find anything with the high amperage and amp-hours I wanted for less than $1000, even when going to reputable China pack builder (he was even a white guy).

I could buy an awesome turn key bike on ebay though for $1000 from some guy in a garage in Iowa shipping in bikes from China. I decided it was time to step-in and provide awesome components at affordable pricing. I  want ebikes to be life changers without costing more than a car, and I want people to have a source to pay a fair price without having to go to Ebay or China.

 

 

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Luna managed to have the ugly magic pie motor redesigned so it looks better in solid black.

 

An ebike  battery pack is one thing you want to buy from a reputable seller. You want your pack to be made with quality 18650 cells that you know aren’t fake…and 18650 cells are the one thing that China has not figured out how to make.

At the time I write this, no good 18650 cell is made in China….they are really good at re-wrapping  low grade cells, and making good looking fakes.

Most ebay sellers and all alibaba sellers sell crappy Chinese packs made up of crappy Chinese cells. Last year that was the only way to get a decent pack for under, $1000 and my goal is to change that.

I happen to be a distributor of 18650 cells, and can get these cells at prices that other ebike vendors could only dream of. My intention is to pass those savings on, and sell volume.

I want everyone to have access to an affordable quality ebike, with a high performance reliable battery pack.

Regardless of low prices, there are some points that we at Luna Cycle want to make because there are some unfair allegations floating around…and that is why I decided to finally write my thoughts here.

  • We sell quality products at low prices.  We are happy getting by with less margin than everyone else.
  • We have China sellers pissed off at us for being too competitive and we love that. Its about time we scare the China ebike guys with some healthy competition. If i accomplish nothing less i will always mention that. I got china sellers to whine my prices were too low. Whine on.
  • We are based in Southern California and have an ebike center in foggy San Francisco. I am not afraid to go head to head with any  China company.  Where I live is prettier and it has more soul.
  • When i go out i spend a ton of money….plus i choose USA manufacturers whenever i have  a choice.  I realize made in USA dont mean as much as it once did…..but when it comes to small volume ebike stuff….. I always defer to the USA ebike part builders.
  • We can support our products because we are not in China…try getting warranty support from China. Try shipping your battery back to China.
  • Our packs are either twice as good or half the price of  every other ebike vendor’s pack… they will try to deceive you by claiming differently and their packs got this special propreiety bs, but if you research you will find the truth.
  • Our battery cells are not fake and are guaranteed authentic. In fact we buy 18650 cells in huge volume direct from the manufacturer, and few ebike pack sellers can claim this.
  • We ship our packs legally and are hazmat certified. Shipping properly is ridiculous expensive and we can still compete against Chinese sellers shipping in their packs illegally…go figure.
  • We  use a quality BMS in our packs that are  designed just for us. It has temp protection and is capable of high amps. WE don’t skimp on our BMS because it is the most important safety feature of the pack.
  • All our packs are made with only quality ingredients. And by that I mean things like name brand Japanese and Korean cells. Ingredients like that aren’t cheap.
  • We don’t sell any packs with Chinese cells and friends shouldn’t let friends buy Chinese cell packs.
  • Our Bafang drives are made by Bafang, they are not fake and are not “pre-production units”, I cant believe it but other vendors are out saying this crap.
  • We are a USA company and love USA and hope USA buyers will feel some infinity towards us.
  • We make many of our battery packs in-house and use a reputable manufacturer for our dolphins
  • We have many of our products and parts engineered and manufactured for us
  • We have a business model to sell direct to the consumer, and pass the savings to the end customer.
  • We believe in changing the world by making awesome ebike components finally affordable.

In addition to this:

Now that electicbike.com has some source of income we can improve our game. Until recently electricbike.com has not earned more than 100 dollars a year for the last 5 years.  We used to sell lights in our shop and sold very few. Our shop was barren…now our shop is getting full with some really cool stuff. I plan to reinvest the profit into improving what we do on electricbike.com.

For the first time I have been able to start paying Ron for all his awesome articles, which in the past he wrote for free…and I am really hoping I can talk Ron to leave freezing Kansas and come join us in sunny California and help steer the electric revolution. I am really indebted to Ron and what he has done for this site. He started out just proof reading my articles which are known for mis-spellings. (I am a Berkeley English graduate believe it or not) Little by little he has become one hell of a writer and has contributed much to this site and its success.  I am very proud of what Ron and I have built here together.

Recently we have  been able to redesign the site because we at last have some funds to pay a designer. We can now pay for content if we can find a good content writer.

I have never allowed advertising on electricbike.com. But I really believe in Lunacycles.com and think it has a worthwhile mission. And of course it is my site…but I feel I  am doing it for the right reasons, and it will benefit the ebike community and electricbike.com even if it is what they call a business.

I built electricbike.com from nothing. Many of my heroes now tell me they got into electric bikes through reading articles on this site. Now I want to build an ebike shop which I hope  will be able to make awesome stuff more accessible.

I am excited to kick off the new year and have some huge product announcements to make soon.

I am so proud to be the only vendor in the world to have in stock the amazing BBSHD 1000w.  Time will show that this is the most amazing kit to hit the market…and when other vendors can finally manage to get it in stock you will hear great things about it everywhere.

I traveled to Bafang in China this year and really pushed to get this drive brought to market and think it will have a great future in this country…more power to the people.

Thanks for reading.

 

 

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Luna Cycle Announces “Green Monday” Free Shipping on all Products

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Lunacycle.com has announced that starting tonight, December 13th,  it will be doing a Green Monday holiday sale to celebrate the “Green” In Ebikes. LunaCycle is offering free shipping on all products.

To cash out on this sale use the coupon code “GreenMachine” on checkout.

One way to deal with the high hazmat charges of  legally shipping Ebike batteries is to just eat it. Lunacycle.com has agreed for a limited time to eat all shipping charges…even on battery packs.

Green Monday has  got to be one of the most fitting days of the year for an ebike company. Use the Coupon code GREENMACHINE to get free shipping on your entire order.

 

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This starts today on www.lunacycle.com and goes through Monday…and maybe later into the week, depending on inventory levels. To USA customers, Luna will be able to deliver all “in stock” items before Christmas.

Free Shipping also applies to most international destinations on all products, except battery packs and Luna frame kits. Please help us spread the word by sharing this news to your friends and on social media. We really appreciate if you can help us get the word out. We are really a grass roots effort, and truly believe in the electric bike revolution.

Its been six years since endless-sphere member “Green Machine” (the electricbike.com founder) has built the pictured green bike with a BMC battery and a soft pouch LiPo battery pack. We rode all over San Francisco together, and we organized group rides, and even some electric bike hill-climb races. In the next 5 years I went through TEN China batteries on this bike, before I decided…there must be a better way. Interestingly in five years time, ebike technology has not changed significantly and prices have remained pretty high for DIY ebike builders. Lunacycle.com was built to change that.

Thanks to Lunacycle, basically anyone can have access to awesome high power, high power density reliable 18650 battery packs without paying a premium price.

This was a great day of riding with good friends including Mr Electric (a former ebike shop owner) and Illia from Ebikes SF. All of us continue to work to promote the electric revolution…But back then, we always had time to take “epic rides” that sometimes would be over 100 miles.

Good Times!…

ERIC HICKS

 

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Written by Eric, December 2015

 

E-bikes on Kickstarter and Indiegogo

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Kickstarter and Indiegogo are the best-known “crowd-funding” sites. If you need money to start a business, and a bank won’t give you a loan…sometimes you can raise a surprising amount of money from crowd-funding. This last year, a lot of people who believe they could make it as an electric bike retailer have tried crowd-funding, so there’s a wide variety of ebike selections that you can buy from these start-ups. There is risk involved, but…if you are an early adopter and pay up front…you might get a good deal on an ebike that arrives several months later.

If you see a product on a crowd-funding site, and you like it…the price is usually much cheaper during the start-up campaign, compared to the retail production price later.

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Sondors

The Sondors E-bike (originally called “Storm”) has permanently changed the E-bike landscape in North America. You can read our story on the Sondors E-bike here. I’m starting this list with the Sondors campaign because they raised over …six…MILLION…dollars!

That number came as a shock a LOT of people. The bike itself is not very special. Walmart is retailing a single-speed fatbike for roughly $200, and since Sondors advertised that early-adopter would be able to get one of their electric fatbikes for a little over $600 (plus shipping), that meant the electric power system would retail for roughly $400. For that price, it has low power and short range, but…it really works, it really is an electric fatbike, and…they really have started delivering them to customers who had paid the price a few months before.

 

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The six-million dollar Sondors bike has been made with several color schemes.

 

One of the features of the Sondors bike that the public has really responded to is the triangle case in the center of the frame, and how it hides the wiring. It seems like a small thing, but customers really like this a LOT.

The final product that has been delivered to customers and has been tested, and it is not impressive, but…that entire funding campaign was a wake-up call to ebike manufacturers and retailers, and if they are smart, this new development might make them a little nervous. Two commonly mentioned E-bikes (due to advertising and PR) are the $6000 Specialized Turbo, and the $6900 Stromer ST2. They are both wonderful high-quality products with great performance, but their high prices make them very slow sellers.

Don’t write me an angry letter because those two upscale bikes should not be compared to a very basic and entry-level performing start-up like the Sondors…that would be missing the point. If you are an E-bike business that didn’t catch the fact that…over 10,000 customers sent their money into Sondors, without knowing if they would ever receive any product at all…the developments in the new E-bike economy will not be kind to you.

Isn’t there a middle ground? Let’s take a look at some of the other crowdfunding efforts, to see what kind of an E-bike you could get for your money.

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Karmic Koben

Their Kickstarter is over, and they had their listed goal met in less than a week. As of September 2015, they are still accepting pre-orders for this E-bike, with $1500 being the least expensive model (which will be around $1800 retail once they are in full production). When I checked today, they were at $259,000.

 

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The Karmic Koben

 

It uses the popular Bafang BBS02 mid drive, which allows the motor to use the bikes gears. The base model weighs 36 lbs, and there is also a carbon fiber frame option that costs more. With both the motor and battery in the center of the bike, this model should handle quite well.

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Rad Rover

This Indiegogo campaign only needed $40,000 as a goal to get mass-production pricing on an electric fatbike built to their spec. The reason they only needed that fairly small amount is because the guy who is starting this electric fatbike campaign (Mike Radenbaugh) already owns a long-standing and successful bicycle shop in Seattle, Washington.

 

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The Rad Rover fatbike. It uses a rear geared hubmotor, which is oil-filled to aid cooling.

 

As of the writing of this article, they had raised $320,000, which far exceeded their $40,000 goal. The rear-mounted geared hubmotor uses 48V, and the system is rated for the US-legal 750W lower limit. Now that the campaign is over, the retail price of the base-model Rad Rover is $1500, which is still not bad. I rode the prototype at the 2015 Interbike convention, and I was very impressed with its performance on mild hills and flat land.

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Vela

This crowd-funding campaign is using both Kickstarter and Indigogo, which I didn’t know was possible. If you pay for one now, the price is $999, but that will be $1800 after they finish, which ends September 21st (so there is still time). As of September 5th, they have raised $16,000 of their $35,000 goal.

 

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The Vela electric bike.

 

The battery is hidden inside the fatter than normal seat-tube. Even so, it still is pretty stealthy, and few people would give it a second look if you were pedaling down a bike path on this E-bike.

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Biktrix Juggernaught

I was skeptical about this start-up. I assumed the Kickstarter campaign was to raise enough money to simply be able to get bulk-purchase pricing breaks on a fairly generic fatbike frame, and the Bafang BBS02 mid-drives. You get a much better unit price if you pay up front for 100 frames, instead of ten. Companies like this come and go, but after I met them at the 2015 Interbike, I have to admit I am very impressed. If they were selling stock, I would invest with them (and I don’t say that often).

They are on solid financial ground, and they are even developing new models, including a proprietary feet-forward comfort cruiser. When I rode their prototypes, the first question out of my (smiling) mouth was “did you get an early prototype BBT02?” (with a torque-sensor, instead of the standard speed sensor). I have found out that the delay of power application on the stock BBS02 is considered a safety feature, so power is not applied until you have started to pedal (or applied a throttle).

Biktrix has made a custom adjustment to the firmware of the BBS02 controllers that they bought, and the power comes on almost instantly, and with a smooth ramp-up. I saw one other company at Interbike that had done the same thing (Lectric Cycles from Arizona).

 

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The Biktrix Juggernaught

 

Their project was successfully funded on December 23, 2014, with nearly $69,000, well above their modest $50,000 goal.

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Faraday Porteur

Back in July of 2012, the Faraday Porteur had won several prestigious design awards, and then launched a Kickstarter campaign in order to fund full production. They eventually raised $177,000

 

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The Faraday Porteur

 

The Faraday Porteur was widely considered to be one of the early successes for Kickstarter campaigns. This very attractive and light E-bike mounted the battery cells inside frame tubing, which helped hide the fact that it was an E-bike. It may not seem to different than many other similar bicycle frames, but…there are very subtle styling choices that make this E-bike one of the most beautiful we have seen, and the company is committed to making sure every part on every bike is made to the highest level of quality that is possible.

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What does all this mean?

I don’t think that anyone who gambles on a new company is expecting great customer service, and often…new products made by a start-up will have some bugs to work out. That being said, it is clear that this year has been a turning point for electric bikes in North America.

If the large established businesses that are selling electric bikes are going to focus on the high-end E-bikes (with higher profit per unit), then…small businesses like these crowd-sourced examples will step in to fill the $1,000-$2,000 model demand in the market.

There is definitely a market for high-performance and high-quality E-bikes, to customers who will pay a little more to get good customer service. That means the prices for that segment of the market will always be higher, but there are millions of potential customers who don’t need a “Mercedes” E-bike.

Someone is going to step-up to the plate and at least try to serve the potential customers in this market segment. The next time gasoline prices in the US spike-up, there will be a flood of small E-bike retailers entering the market.

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, September 2015

2015, the ElectricBike.com Year in Review

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What a year 2015 has been! Many things didn’t go the way I had expected them to go, but there were some very important developments, and we are here to spell them out for you.

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Pics of vintage bikes?

In the header pic, the one on the left is the famous “Penny Farthing” (the name is a reference to a large coin and small coin from England). This style of bicycle was also called a “High wheeler” and an “Ordinary” (in case you want to Google more info on them). The pedals were fixed to the axle, so if the wheel was turning, the pedals were spinning. That also allowed the rider to apply back-pressure on the pedals to slow down, and many of these also came with a “spoon brake”, which is very weak device and was pressed onto the tread of the tire. It looked similar to the rubbing pad used on the wheel of a horse-cart.

They were quite a revolution at the time, but it was quickly apparent that they were only useful to young athletic men. They had a simple and robust construction, but the way to get a bike to go faster was to make the front wheel as large in diameter as possible. Of course, that diameter was limited by the length of the average leg on the athletic young men of the day.

High wheelers enjoyed success for many years, but inventors everywhere pondered that there must be a better way. In a very short amount of time, bicycles went from the example on the left, to the bicycle on the right. An Australian inventor made the “Kangaroo”, which looked similar to the high wheeler, but used a chain and sprockets to get a 2:1 ratio, which allowed high speeds with a front wheel that was only half as tall, and was also less likely to flip over forward at a sudden stop.

 

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Then in 1884, A British man named John Starley made the rear wheel a little larger, and moved the pedals to the center of the bicycle, with the chain and sprockets driving the rear wheel. This was the original Rover “Safety” bicycle (a reference to crashes when stopping on a high wheeler). However, it was still a fixed-gear bicycle, and as a result, it was common to get a running start and then fling your leg over the bike, which meant the rear wheel was kept to a smaller size than the front wheel. The front wheel was reasonably large in diameter at 36-inches, and that smoothed-out potholes in the bad roads of the day (it used solid rubber tires). Less than a year after patenting the original Safety bicycle, Starley patented the 1885 version, with the wheels being closer in size (the front wheel being 30-inches in diameter).

Just a short time later in 1888, John Dunlop from Scotland patented pneumatic tires for bicycles, which was a huge improvement over the solid rubber tires previously used, because of the bad roads and the lack of any suspension on common bicycles. The bicycle business was booming everywhere (cars were expensive, and rare) and city-dwellers had no place to house and maintain horses or wagons (if they could even afford to buy and feed a horse). Harmon Moise patented a freewheel in 1895, and that added fire to the already burning hot bicycle market. In 1897 alone, there were over two million bicycles sold in the United States, not including the rest of the world!

Why am I taking this little trip down memory lane? The biggest allies of electric bicycles should be pedal-bicyclists, and yet…we are still seeing a great deal of push back from the bicycling community. E-bikers are often called “Cheaters”! I assume that this is because they feel we are violating the purity of the entire concept of the bicycle. Apparently, everyone must only be either a bicyclist who is a wonderful person, or…an evil scoundrel who drives a car.

I propose a phrase of our own…I am cheating (on my car)

From 1884 to 1895, it took only 11 years for bicycles to go from an oddity that only tall, young, and athletic men could enjoy…to something that men and women, young and old, people from every country…could afford and use to transform their lives for the better.

2015 has been a milestone year for ebikes like no other previous year, here in North America. In spite of a slow economy, and also low gasoline prices…ebikes are really taking off. 2016 is an election year, and if the economy improves, and fuel prices go up…North American retailers of ebikes and kits will not be able to keep up with the demand.

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Amazing new battery packs

The most important story of 2015 is batteries. Adding a hubmotor kit to a bicycle remains the most affordable way to get an ebike (although European factory ebike manufacturers are working hard to establish a foothold here, shown here at Interbike), but the selection and prices of kits and hubmotors were already very good last year, and there are very few areas where kits could be significantly improved.

 

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Battery packs, however, were the biggest holdup in getting non-ebikers to take the plunge. Bicycles don’t have a lot of volume on the frame into which you can locate a battery, so ebike battery packs are fairly small. Two years ago, even expensive packs did not provide high amps, and…if you wanted to compensate by going to higher voltages, doing that would require many more expensive cells (by increasing the “series” count), which increases the physical size of the pack, without a significant improvement in range.

In 2015, a lot of great new cells finally became available to ebikers. Now, even a relatively small battery pack (that is easy to fit onto almost any frame), can have high performance, or very long range. Also, there is now a great selection of triangle battery packs from a variety of vendors.

This is all good news for customers, and many people who had previously been holding off…are now jumping into the ebike world.

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Luna Cycles

In the interests of full disclosure, electricbike.com and Luna Cycles are both owned by the same person, Eric. That being said, the question then becomes…when Eric started the Luna Cycle store this year…is it news? Has it had an effect on the ebike market in North America?…The answer is YES!

Luna provides a US-based retailer who supplies battery packs in rectangle and triangle shapes, and customers can buy packs made from 25R, MJ1, 30Q, 26F, 29E, PF, and the Tesla “B” cell. You can choose a soft-side pack, a cylindrical bottle battery, the popular dolphin hard case, and the new slender shark hard case. Options include a digital voltage read-out, and a USB port to charge your smart-phone or GPS.

I know that all of that just sounded like an ad, but…thousands of new ebike customers felt it is news, and I do too.

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BBSHD

Ever since Bafang introduced the BBS02, its sales have grown every month. It had growing pains the first year, but last year they upgraded the controllers from six FETs to nine, and then upgraded to a higher-quality “3077” FET. That meant that customers could actually run the unit at the rated 25-Amps without it overheating.

The BBS02 continues to be our number one recommended kit for street commuters who have hills to struggle up. However, Bafang could not help but to notice that many off-roaders were enjoying the BBS02 on very steep off-road trails. When the BBS02 is pushed hard and is sometimes used when the bike is not in the proper gear…it can get very hot, even with the upgrades from last year. This year, they introduced a version that was designed for that exact job, the BBSHD…(HD= Heavy Duty)

 

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The motor is the same diameter, and uses the same laminations. But, it is wider, and that extra width provides more power, and more copper mass that can take more amps. The standard BBSHD version fits very well on 100mm wide bottom brackets, without needing to use special off-set crank arms.

It has a 30A rating, which doesn’t sound much more powerful than the 25A used by its smaller brother. However, the BBSHD will run cooler at 30A, compared to the BBS02 when it is run with frequent peaks of 25A. Fatbikes and some high-end off-road bikes use a 100mm BB, so the BBSHD would drop right in. The recommended 52V X 30A equals 1560 watts of power.

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Colored Rims

I have to give credit to Pedego as a pioneer in using color-matching rims on their ebikes. A few years ago, their polling showed that female customers wanted more color selection, and more color-matching (or color-contrasting) choices. In 2014, Vector and Sondors both made news, and both also happened to use a variety of colors in their rims. In 2015, colored rims are everywhere.

 

 

Rims are one of the few places where custom builders can really accessorize their creation. The pic below shows a rim (Pic courtesy of Thomas Foster) that has had a “dip” applied, which is a technique with an exciting range of possibilities. There are also off-road examples using forest “camouflage” patterns.

 

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E-bikes on Kickstarter and Indiegogo

The Sondors fat bike had an effect on the ebike industry in North America like a nuclear bomb. Their Kickstarter campaign raised over six million dollars. It was based on the premise that if you make tens of thousands of a product, you only need to make a small profit off of each unit to survive. There were many claims that even with bulk pricing direct from China (no middle-man wholesaler), it would be difficult to make any profit, and perhaps…the Sondors might be a scam.

 

 

Today? they are behind schedule, but…they have really started to deliver the fatbikes to customers. Hundreds of them so far, and the quality of this simple initial model is actually not bad.

Don’t quit your job to jump into your own kickstarter just yet! It looks like Sondors may have actually pulled it off, and are making profits off of up-selling customers on accessories and after-sale upgrades. Surviving by that method is a gamble, but…we will keep an eye on that.

The reason it is news, is that…it really opened the eyes of a lot of entrepreneurs to the possibilities of kickstarter campaigns and also electric bikes. The Sondors fatbike provided more free advertising to the North American public than any other effort previous to that. Last year, the biggest paid advertising campaigns I had seen were from Pedego, and many people still didn’t know that electric bikes even existed.

There are other crowd-funding campaigns for ebikes, and one company that started this way in 2015 is Biktrix in Canada. I am very bullish on these guys, keep an eye on them.

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Fatbikes, and mid-fat tires

Last year, at the Interbike convention…I talked to a lot of bike shop owners who were happy to sell fatbikes and fatbike accessories, but…they sounded certain that it was a temporary “fad” that would die soon. This year? they just keep getting more popular every month.

I have a theory. Most mainstream bicycle industry insiders and customers don’t personally like fatbikes, but…people who have not been on a bicycle since they were a kid seem to LOVE them. Their followers grow in numbers each month, and the data defies analysis. If you want to dip your toe into the waters of the fatbike world, the best place to start is with our friend Karl at electric-fatbike.com…He has a strict “No Bull Shit” rule. Read a little there, and you’ll see what I mean.

Also, last year…there was a big gap in the readily available tire widths. There were several selections around 2.5 inches, and then…a lot of selection for fat tires around 4-inches or more. In 2015 I saw a sudden increase in street and off-road tires using a 2.8, 3.0, and 3.5-inch width. I have seen them referred to as “mid fat” tires, but…whatever you call them, I like it.

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Quan Shun 

If you want to keep an eye on new developments, you can sometimes find interesting new stuff in our “Custom Build Gallery” ebike features. One thing that kept coming up in 2015 is that: in spite of all the buzz and the new products in the “mid drive” category…many builders who ride on streets and want to be able to keep up with cars (or get out of their way when danger occurs) still like the simplicity of large direct drive hubmotors.

 

 

Not only was that an interesting development, but a new player has grown in popularity. A company called Quan Shun (QS) that makes large electric scooter and motorcycle hubmotors, has started to alter and sell their products to work for ebikers builds.

The Monster Cromotor is still very popular, but the QS (model 205/50H V3) is capable of a little more power, and is developing a following in the hot rod electric bike world.

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Leafbike 1500W

Endless-sphere member Neptronix stumbled across these, and took a risk by buying one for evaluation. It is a simple direct drive (DD) hubmotor, and the motor has a 35mm wide magnet ring and stator. This is the widest that a hubmotor can be made, where it still fits into common 135mm wide drop-outs, and also still allows the bike to have a 7-speed sprocket cluster.

Freehub Cassettes are more expensive, but also allow 8, 9, and 10-speeds worth of sprockets to be mounted. In the middle-weight DD hub category, buyers are price-sensitive, but also want a lot of power available when they are blending with street traffic between 30-MPH and 40-MPH (48-64 km/h), and for those reasons, I anticipate the larger DD hubmotor market to continue to use a 1, 3, 5, and 7-speed freewheels…because freewheels are thinner and cheaper than freehub cassettes.

 

 

Currently, the most popular 35mm wide DD hubbie is the Crystalyte H35-series. It works fine at its rated power, but…when hot rodded, it can get very hot, and the axle has sometimes broken when abused (high watts + regen+ potholes at 40-MPH). The Leafbike 1500W labeled motor has two benefits that makes it a contender that is moving up in popularity.

The axle is much stronger, and also…the factory has begun making the stator with the thinner 0.35mm thick laminations, instead of the common 0.50mm. Thinner lamination dramatically reduce the cogging (magnetic drag) when the motor is off and the rider is only pedaling. Also, the thinner laminations reduce any eddy-current heat that the stator experiences, which allows the rider to use more amps without overheating the hub.

I was shocked at Interbike to find out that upgrading to the thinner laminations costs less than $10 per motor. Why isn’t everyone doing this? Currently, the Leafbike 1500W (actually capable of 52V X 50A = 2600W), uses a thin steel stamped stator support. If they upgraded that (for a small fee) to the desirable thick aluminum stator support, the motor would be a little heavier, but the additional heat-absorbing mass would allow more peak amps to be used.

There is currently no North American dealer for these (but I don’t expect that to last long). If you want one, you have to order direct from Leafbike. Ask for the temp sensor to be factory-installed and also to add the thicker 3mm motor phase wires.

MXUS does have a 28mm wide stator motor with the thinner laminations, temp sensor, fatter phase wires, and the thick aluminum stator support, but…they have been resistant to producing a 35H version of the V2…

Sooo…between these two similar hubbies, MXUS isn’t making a 35H stator version, and Leafbike isn’t making a thick aluminum stator support yet. I wonder who will blink first?

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Ferro Fluid

Every year, there are a few new developments that are the timeline equivalent of baby steps towards a slightly better product or some new thing. Ferro Fluid is a HUGE development that has come completely out of left field. It allows direct drive (DD) hubmotors to run cooler, or conversely…it allows a smaller DD hubmotor to run bigger hub amps without overheating.

Geared and DD hubmotors have a poor heat-shedding path from the hot stator coils to the aluminum sideplates. When an ebike is at a stop, and then begins accelerating…you will draw the max amps that your system can provide for a few seconds. Once you achieve a stable cruising speed…the amps will slide down to the level that maintains your speed.

 

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In this operational profile, the stator gets pretty hot for a few seconds, and then spends the next several minutes cooling off to being just warm. We recommend that the core of a hubmotor stay below 200F/93C, in order to avoid any damage. If your hubbie stays completely cool under all conditions, then it might be larger, heavier, and more expensive than necessary for the job you are loading it with. But…if its temporary peak internal heat gets close to 200F/93C, then you are risking damaging it when you tackle a long and steep uphill on a hot day.

Ferro Fluid (FF) is a liquid with microscopic particles that are attracted to magnetism, and that means when a small amount is inserted into the insides of a hubmotor, it naturally spreads out and is held in the air-gap between the permanent magnets of the rotor, and the stator coils. As a thin liquid, it adds very little drag to the spinning rotor, but what it accomplishes is that is forms a thermal bridge between the hot coils in the stator and the outer aluminum shell of the hubmotor.

Justin from Grin Tech in Vancouver (Canada) has built a wind tunnel to test various hubmotor heat-shedding methods. Someone sent him some FF to test, and the results were so good that Justin has started a more comprehensive testing series to exactly measure the performance envelope of FF. Somewhere around 500-RPMs, the FF experienced enough centripetal force that it creeped outwards away from the magnetic gap, but…as soon as the motor was slowed to below 500-ish, the magnetism pulled all of the FF back into the proper location.

This is relevant because a geared hubmotor spins 5 times faster than the wheel, due to the internal gearing. Also, a geared-hubmotors stator has a double layer of insulating air inside the side covers. Both of these facts mean that FF will not be helpful for geared hubmotors. A common 26-inch wheel traveling at 28-MPH (45 km/h) is spinning 365-RPM’s. But on a geared hub, the motor is spinning over 1800-RPM’s. This means FF works great for DD hubs, but not for the geared hubmotors.

Endurance testing is going on right now to see if any issues arise after months of running FF in a DD hub, so you can be certain that we are keeping a close eye on this. Previous efforts at cooling mods were only useful for racing hubmotors. Ventilating the sideplates with holes to let the heat out…also lets road grit into the inside of the motor. Adding ATF as a coolant seems to always lead to an oil-leak. Both worked well, but FF looks like it will be better than either one of them.

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Interbike 2015 in September

When I attended the Interbike convention in 2013 and 2014, it was getting bigger each year, and 2015 was no exception. Ebikes are very big in the European Union (EU), where gasoline is around $8 a gallon. Even though expensive factory ebikes are not yet selling very well in the US, the manufacturers have realized that they need to “get their foot in the door” here.

 

 

The pic above is from the outdoor demo, and the indoor portion was HUGE! This year it has become noticeable that manufacturers are spending serious money on advertising and developing dealer relationships. You have only to take a look at “Electric Bike Action” magazine to see what I mean.

 

 

This year, they finally had a large indoor track for test rides. I think it was a big success, because free test rides are the single best way to get bike shop dealers and customers to start buying ebikes. I can’t emphasize that enough.

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Missing In Action: TDCM/Xiongda

Last year, I saw two great ideas that I had very high hopes for. The Xiongda 2-speed hubmotor, and also the TDCM hubmotor which is a simple DD hub with an Internally Geared Hub (IGH) inserted into its center.

An IGH (like the popular Shimano Nexus series) only has one external sprocket, and the internal components form a multi-speed transmission where popular models have 3, 5, 7, 8, and even 11 speeds (The expensive Rohloff has 14-speeds!). With the TDCM DD hub, the lack of an external derailleur and common stack of 7 sprockets means that the internal stator could easily be as wide as 45mm, while still allowing the axle shoulders to fit into the common 135mm drop-outs found on millions of existing bicycles. I thought they would immediately be very popular, but I didn’t see them this year, and I haven’t found any bike builds with it on the forums. TDCM, please call me!

The Xiongda design is still maturing, but I thought that even in its current state, it would spur some exciting new developments. If I had some investment capital, I would take part in developing a larger Xiongda 2-speed hub for the USA market.

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Custom Build Gallery

Even if I wasn’t reporting on ebike news, the custom builds are close to my heart. I wish I had time to write up one build a week. However, in the very small amount of time I have to write for electricbike.com, it pains me to have to pick only one to write about when I have some time off from my job. But, for 2015…here they are.

Zlatko in Croatia designed an on-road/off-road beast, the CBM

Matt used TWO Astro motors to convert a Motoped to electric

Hellcat Cycles in New Zealand reminded me of how much fun vintage bikes are

Marks Phatrod is a street dragster with awesome style

This moped in Austria was given a second life as an electric off-roader

Australians never fail to provide new custom builds like this street rod

Previous custom builds can be found in the indexes (just like this one) that are located in the 2013 and 2014 end of year reviews, linked below

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Electric Bikes in 2013, the Year in Review

2014 year in review

2014, the ElectricBike.com Year in Review

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Mistakes?

If I got something wrong, or…I left out an important development, write it down on the back of a $100 dollar bill, and send it to “spinningmagnets”, cell 41, Kansas state prison for the mentally ill.

Or, you could private message (PM) me at endless-sphere.com, my username is…(*sips beer)…spinningmagnets

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, December 2015


Cyclone 3000W Build and Ride Report

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There is a lot of buzz around about the new Cyclone 3000W motor kit. This is a new improved motor just arriving to the mid-drive category that has been around a while, and has a respected following on the ebike builders forum endless-sphere.

Some very expensive re-brands have happened with the Cyclone. Its rumoured that the expensive Ego and AFT kits are just a Cyclone motor with better accessories and snazzier-looking components.

 

Ride Report

WOW!…Just…wow. This thing is so awesome, but…since it is putting out 2000 watts+, it is definitely in the realm of being illegal for the street.

I have gotten used to my BBSHD which, in comparison…is a much milder and more refined riding experience. The Cyclone 3000W has gut wrenching power….it has this raw feel …nice solid freewheel noises, and it feels like it can climb anything . In fact, it feels much more like a motor-bike than a bicycle. It has get-you-in-trouble amounts of power.

We were clocking 40-MPH in high gear on a flat surface without pedaling. This thing is fun and awesome. I really was not expecting it to be this smooth…with a nice low pedal-cadence (so you can add pedaling if you want, to extend battery range) and a very solid feeling to it.

The 3000W Cyclone is audible…with the well-known whining of the electric motor…and it is definitely not “almost silent” like the Bafang BBS02 or BBSHD, but…it is not as loud as any other powerful mid drive I have ridden. This thing has true power…and when it is running at 40 amps and using a 52 volt battery, it is putting out 2100 watts. If I upgraded to a 72 volt battery, then I could get the full 3000 watts…and I imagine that I would be close to 50-MPH with even more torque.

If you didn’t need 50-MPH, the great thing about any mid drive is that…you can easily and cheaply change the gearing by swapping-out a chainring or rear wheel sprocket. A larger rear sprocket, or a smaller chainring (or both?) means you will have a lower top speed, but…more low-RPM torque, with a cooler running system.

This kit could get you into a lot of trouble. Sooo…before jumping on the power wagon, consider these points:

  • This much power is way more than any ebike needs
  • This kind of power would probably be considered illegal to operate at full power on most city streets
  • This kind of power can get you hurt bad if you crash at top speed
  • This kind of power will snap drivetrain components.
  • This kind of power is hard on batteries etc…
  • This kind of power is generally going to make the bike more unreliable.

Did I mention the Cyclone 3000 watt has a lot of power?

There are so many ramifications to a powerful ebike like this. If you buy this kit, and two months later you write to complain that now you have to replace your sprockets and chain more often?…nobody will cry for you, because…everybody knows that’s the price of joining the high-powered mid drive club.

Cons of high power

  • Inefficient
  • noisier
  • possibly illegal
  • less reliable
  • hard on battery pack
  • you can hurt yourself

Pluses of high power

  • Easily go the speed of traffic, to stay ahead of texting car-drivers
  • Climb mountains
  • Blast through soft sand or snow
  • Impress your neighbors
  • Adrenaline thrills

Which Donor Bike?

Consider spending more money on your donor bike. If you use cheap components and add high power, it can be a dangerous combination…things you might want to consider:

  • Disc brakes are a must…preferably high quality
  • Full suspension is cool but difficult to mount, plus battery and frame might flex
  • Consider a hardtail downhill bike…the most practical donor solution
  • Quality ebike tires are a must, preferably DOT speed rated
  • High quality derailleur and shifters are needed to survive with high power

Our Donor Bike

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We chose a $1250 carbon fiber hardtail bike from amazon. It was delivered in only two days. Actually we chose this bike for a BBSHD install but, the BBSHD did not fit this weird carbon fiber bottom bracket, so…we instead decided to try the Cyclone. Amazingly the Cyclone fit fine where as the BBSHD didn’t. If you DO get a hardtail, seriously consider also getting a suspension seat-post, like the popular Suntour NCX or the Thudbuster.

This 24-lb bike (not a mis-print!), uses 27.5-inch wheels, and the rear wheel uses a cassette freehub with ten sprockets.

Immediate upgrades you should consider

  • E-brakes! (the Cyclone kit does not come with ebrake power-cutoff)
  • High quality bicycle chain (remember if your chain breaks you are walking)
  • Ultra high quality disc brakes and rotors (we recommend Shimano Ice rotors)
  • Change to a thumb throttle
  • Cycle Analyst to limit and monitor power and battery

Which battery pack?

Picking a battery pack is not so easy for the Cyclone compared to most DIY kits…the stock Cyclone kit has a 40-amp controller that can handle up to 72 volts. 40 amps is hard on a cheap battery pack, and most cheap chinese battery packs will not put out this kind of power, especially if they are made from lithium cells.

You are going to need a powerful battery pack that can support this bike…probably a large Amp-hour (Ah) pack, because the Cyclone does suck a lot of juice. I think a 20-Ah pack is ideal for this bike if you have a place on your frame to fit it. The Luna Cycle 18650 soft shell and triangle packs with 50 amp BMS are a good choice. We used a 48V Luna Cycle 20-Ah pack using authentic Samsung 26F cells, mounted in the triangle with a Luna Cycle triangle bag. This combination was powerful and reliable. The cells only got a little warm with hard street riding.

Alternatively you could use higher quality, higher amperage cells such as the 25R and then run a much smaller Luna Cycle pack like the 52V / 10-Ah Samsung 25R pack…and still another option is to go with a Panasonic NCR-B 52v 20ah pack in a back pack. Those two options may be worth considering if you really want a full-suspension bike, with a very small frame triangle.

The battery pack we chose

We picked the biggest battery that would fit in our Luna Cycle triangle zip-bag which is the 52V / 20-Ah Samsung 26F. The large 20-Ah size is awesome, so we did not need top shelf cells like the more expensive 25R. The 26F handles the Cyclones power just fine in the 20-Ah size.  (see battery in store)

High Power Means not as efficient and less range

A bike with a 3000W motor will not be as efficient if you use that power. Wind resistance becomes a huge factor in speeds of over 30-MPH (45 km/h). Also, pedaling input does not mean as much when you are juicing 3000 watts…remember, a top cyclist puts out a max of 700 watts…so if you are throttling to 3000 watts don’t expect your pedal input to add much to your overall range.

Peak range numbers were made for misers on the throttle. You can’t expect to be burning high amps, and still get fantastic range. There is a solution to this as mentioned before…just buy a larger Ah battery. 20-Ah should easily get you 30-40 miles on the Cyclone even if riding hard.

The Cyclone 3000W?…high power at an amazing price point

Luna Cycles is currently selling this Cyclone kit at $389 for the complete system (just add bike and battery/charger). This is an amazing price. And let’s face it…much of the DIY ebike movement is about building an affordable ebike with great performance. For achieving those goals, the Cyclone 3000W is ideal. The Cyclone 3000W kit should capture the hearts of a lot of hard core DIYers who want to go fast on the cheap.

I do not know any better option for affordable performance. Consider this: to get a 40-MPH out of a hubmotor, you would need to go with a MXUS 3000W kit or Cromotor which are 25 pound motors that cost twice the price of the Cyclone and are 25 pounds mounted in a bicycle wheel, which really does suck as much as it sounds like it would…especially if you are going to ride off road on slow and technical obstacle trails.

The Cyclone is a 10 pound mid drive (compared to an equivalent 25-lb hubmotor)…that mounts in the middle of the bike on the bottom bracket…low on the bike…acting like a keel, The Cyclone uses the transmission of the bike so that you can go fast on flats or climb slowly on the most brutally steep hills. Because it is so well balanced…our Cyclone-powered bike can still do wheelies…go off jumps, and ride off road.

The Cyclone was awesome for buzzing up and down the block. Neighbors would come out and watch us blast by. In comparison the BBS02 and the BBSHD look and ride like normal bicycles. The Cyclone screams “electric bike”.

I loved the way the Cyclone looked, once it mounted to the bike. ALthough it looked ugly off the bike, like this big monstrosity….once on the bike, I had no complaints at all about the aesthetics.

Our mechanic is an ebike commuter and we decided to give the Cyclone an acid test, by riding through the middle of Los Angeles at night, with traffic 30 miles away to Hollywood…climbing some good sized hills along the way.

The first night he rode home on it, we weren’t sure he would make it and had our cell phones on and had the Luna Cycle “rescue” mini van on call in case he broke down (or ran out of battery). We never got the call. And our mechanic has been riding the 60 mile round trip daily commute…every day for a week, without incident. The bike performs exactly like it should…and we have now gotten a lot of confidence in the set up….and feel it is solid.

This big hunk of motor

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I have really started to like this monstrosity of a motor. It actually looks awesome mounted to my bike…its a geared hub…and if you are only using 52V X 40A = 2080 watts, it never gets warm. I don’t worry about stripping the gears inside it, since they seem pretty damn beefy. This motor just does not seem delicate.

What makes the Cyclone pretty special is not how fast it spins…but how slowly it spins. It is spinning slowly with big torque, which is awesome for an ebike motor because you want to be able to have a usable pedal cadence and assist this beast, and the low rpms make that possible. Even though the axle is spinning slowly, the motor inside is spinning 5X as fast because of the planetary gear box…this makes the motor efficient, cool-running, and happy because all electric motors like to spin fast.

The Joy of building

OK, now we get to the building part which I know it doesn’t sound like the fun part. But there is a whole community of builders you can find on endless-sphere who take special thrill in building something that can blow the fenders off their buddies expensive store-bought ebike or the neighbors super easy to install but expensive kit.

The Cyclone is NOT an easy kit to install. It is rough and rugged. It comes with no instructional manual…you will not find a refined website with fancy install videos. With this thing you need to put it together and figure it out yourself. And when you do, you will feel this rewarding feeling that comes with building something that not everyone could pull off. The Cyclone is definitely a builders kit…and its not even really that hard to install…just a little tricky…but after you install it I bet you will get this tremendous rush knowing you have one of the meanest bad-ass ebikes on the block, and you were the one who built it!

To start your build we recommend you bench test your set up as soon as it arrives…get it working before you take the time and effort of installing it on the bike frame.

This is a great idea on a complex drive like this because its so much easier to troubleshoot when its on the bench then when its on the bike. Also, heaven forbid if your controller or motor is dead…you don’t have any time invested on the install, so its easier to send a part back for an exchange.

Although all our motors were bench tested we did not test each controller.

One of the trickiest parts of the cyclone is getting it to be just the right width for your bottom bracket (BB). We send it out in a base configuration…but, spacers can be taken out or prearranged to get it to work with different widths of bottom brackets. You may need to buy some basic washers to use as spacers. So it is up to the user to get the perfect spacing using your own ingeniuity and this is most of the difficulty in installing this kit.

Here are some tips we have learned with our own experience fiddling with the kit on our own install:

Getting the old BB off

  • This is a frustrating part of any mid drive bike build.
  • We recommend if you do not have bike tools to have a local bike shop do this step.
  • Taking the old BB cartridge out can take as long as 3 hours if you’re not a bike mechanic

There are two different sizes of BB. The cyclone comes with 2 types of BB….regular width and fat. You must use a combination of bearings or spacers (washers) to get the BB to fit on your particular bike.

Here’s a pic of the 2 different sizes of BB

 

The Cyclone 3000 comes in two different sizes…regular and fat. The only difference in the 2 kits is the Bottom Bracket and parts are different. On the left hand side you see the regular size, which is good for bikes from 68mm to 83mm…and then you see the fat kit for bikes from 83mm to 110mm (many fatbikes with 4-inch wide tires use 100mm). Between these two sizes the Cyclone will fit most BB’s, but…it will take some ingenuity on your part. Plus you may need to buy some bicycle tools that you don’t own yet.

Getting the BB to fit

 

  • On the standard BB kit (68-83mm) it comes with an extra bearing. You probably do not need this extra bearing. What we have heard from Cyclone is that the bearing is used for bikes with a 73mm bottom bracket..meaning the bearing gives you an extra 5mm of spacing.
  • There are many tricks to get the BB to work with the sizing you need. One easy trick is use of washers as spacers to get the spacing you need.
  • There is a 83-110mm kit that uses a different BB…and likewise you can use spacers as needed.

Basically use whatever skills and spacers you have to, in order to get the Cyclone BB to fit….or do whatever you need to get your old BB to fit. But because there is a lot of flexibility on how to get it to fit and no exact directions on how to achieve this, it can be a difficult step. This is something a local bike shop can help with. And let’s be honest, there are dozens of bicycle BB configurations, so there will never be a single solution.

Sizing of two chains

The Cyclone requires TWO chains…one from the front chainring to the back wheel, and one from the motor to the chainring. This is the old school way of doing a mid drive that Bafang and Bosch almost made obsolete with their ultra clean mid drives, but the 2 chain set up works suprisingly well once it is set up right. To get this right you have to get the size of your chains to just the right length, which can be a frustrating experience. Again we recommend you to defer to your local bicycle shop to quickly do this part of the install. Sizing bicycle chains can suck.

Getting Chain Tensioner set up Right:

 

 

Once you got the chains set to the right length, the Cyclone has a tensioner which needs to be adjusted any way you can (even with a ziptie) to make it just the right tension so your drive chain does not keep popping off. We had the chain come off a few times, but once we got it tensioned right? …the chain has not fallen off since.

Getting the throttle to fit

The Basic Cyclone kit comes with a right-side twist throttle. We love the quality of this throttle. It has a key on/off switch and a voltage meter. It is awesome. However it will not work with many installations because it might interfere with the stock bicycle gear shifter. Unlike the Bafang kits, it doesn’t come with a convenient simple thumb throttle which would be better suited for this kit. Twist throttles can be dangerous on kits such as this. Here are possible solutions to the problem:

  • You can turn the throttle upside down and run on the left side…
  • Change to a Half twist left-side throttle from Taiwan
  • Rewire it to any thumb throttle

Wrestling with an ebike Controller

 

This bike uses a standard ebike controller and these things can be a pain in the ass. They are a spaghetti-ball of wires with cheap Chinese connectors. Dealing with this mess can really be a pain. Here is a pic that will show you which wires need to be connected…and the rest you can just ignore.

More install pictures

Here are the install pics we got from Cyclone to help you figure out this installation:

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Written by Eric, January 2016

Qulbix Q76R, a new slimmer and lighter Raptor

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Qulbix has just introduced a new Raptor model that is slimmer and lighter than their popular Q140, and if we were going to build up an off-road ebike right now, this is the frame we would use…and this article will explain why we like it so much.

 

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Qulbix, a Company that is evolving

Back in 2014, we began seeing off-road hot rodders using a frame they bought from a company called Qulbix (pronounced Cool Bikes), and you can read our article about them here. Builders were buying the Raptor frame, and outfitting it with the components of their choice.

They were getting a lot of feedback from customers, and just a few months later, they introduced a new slimmer model they called the Raptor 140. The name means the central battery space was only 140mm wide (5.5-inches, roughly the width of a dollar bill). Even so, the actual battery space was larger than before, to allow a huge battery pack to be fitted in order to allow high volts, high amps, and long range.

 

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Last year, there was a huge milestone that popped up in the ebike battery world. The major 18650-format cell manufacturers released quite a few new models of cells, some of which provided very high amps, and others which had much more range. We wrote about these amazing new cells here, and their existence has been a game-changer in the ebike world.

One of the reasons I have been such a vocal fan of the Qulbix company is because they have boldly made innovative improvements to their product line, and they have done this relatively quickly in response to feedback from their most passionate customers. The option of the new power-dense and energy-dense cells provided an opportunity that they did not hesitate to take advantage of.

The 18650 number means that these popular high-current cells (developed for the global cordless tool market) are 18mm in diameter, and 65mm long. So the question then became…how narrow (and light) could the battery compartment of the next-gen Raptor be? The answer is…the battery compartment has a 76mm inner width (a mere three inches!).

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The Battery Compartment

Below is the official company engineering drawing to show the dimensions of the Q76R battery compartment, which has been optimised to hold 240 of the 18650 cells mounted on their sides. Those numbers may not seem impressive at first, and you might have thought you’d have to give up a lot of power and range to have a slimmer and lighter battery compartment, but…not here!

 

Q76R1

I know of one builder who is working on creating a 20S / 12P pack using the Panasonic-Sanyo “GA” cell, which is rated for 10A. Since he is designing this pack to use twelve of the 10A cells in parallel (12P), then it will be capable of 120A of current. The 20-cells in series configuration (20S) provides a nominal voltage of 74V. This means that 74V X 120A = 8880 watts of power (12 horse-power, but with full torque at only one RPM).

The average “nominal” voltage of a 20S pack is 74V, but if you follow our recommended charging protocol of 4.1V per cell max, a 20S configuration would be 82V when fully charged.

The GA cell has a nominal capacity of 3500-mAh per cell, and when bundled in 12 cells per Parallel group (12P), that pack would have a capacity of 42-Ah. And, to get the total power available,  74V X 42-Ah = 3108 watt-hours. For those who are new to this game…that’s a LOT! And the amazing part is how slender and fairly small that impressive battery pack will be, compared to the batteries from just one year ago.

 

Q76R3

 

Here’s our article on the five most popular rear hubmotors that enthusiasts have been using, to give you an idea what motors would be common for a frame like this.

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Specs

350mm___Bottom bracket height

880mm___Minimum Bicycle seat height

860mm___Minimum Moto seat height

810mm___Standover Height

64-degrees_Headtube Angle

1240mm__Wheelbase

230mm___Rear Wheel Travel

200mm___Front suspension Travel (when using the recommended DNM USD8 fork)

150mm___Head Tube Length

44mm___Head Tube Inside Diameter (ID), suitable for semi-integrated 1-1/8 inch headset bearings (not included)

30.9mm___Seat Tube Inner Diameter (ID)

30.8mm___Seat Post OD

35mm___Seat Tube Outside Diameter (OD)

83mm___Bottom Bracket (BB) width, BSA/English thread 1-3/8

90mm___Maximum rear tire width the frame allows (3.50-inches, measured using a 26-inch tire)

40mm___Rear Shock Bushing Length

240mm__Eye to Eye shock Length

Recommended rear shock: DNM RCP2 240mm X 76mm, 9.5 X 3-inch, with 40mm bushings.

Alternative shock sizes verified to work well:

267 X 89

222 X 70

216 X 63

Stock rear brake caliper mounts compatible with 200mm and 203mm diameter discs.

Battery compartment interior width: 76mm wide

Battery compartment side opening: 230mm X 475mm

Frame material: a steel grade that is stronger than Cromo

Side Plate material: aluminum alloy

Frame weight: 7.4 kg in bicycle config (with no controller guard) 16.3 lbs

Frame weight: 8.2 kg in moto config (with no controller guard), 18.1 lbs

Drop outs type: 10mm slot, clamping style.

Drop out width: 155mm stock, 165mm on request

 

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The majority of their business has been to simply sell the frame kit, and customers can often save on shipping costs by sourcing the wheels, fork, and motor from local businesses (or from a bike they already own). However, Qulbix will be happy to sell anyone a complete turn-key Q140, or a Q76R. Contact them on their website for details and current prices.

Here is a link to the Qulbix Facebook page

Here is a link to the endless-sphere forum discussion on the Q76R

Here is the Qulbix home web-catalog 

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, February 2016

BH eMotion now producing AWD ebikes

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BH eMotion electric bikes are based in Spain, and due to the good performance and reasonable price points of their products, they have been doing well in North America over these past couple of years. They are now selling factory turn-key All Wheel Drive models, and I’ll tell you why I think this is a good thing that was way overdue.

[header pic is courtesy of Blue Monkey Bicycles, in Utah…thanks, Duane!]

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Beistegui Hermanos, BH

Back in 1909, in Europe, there had recently been a great deal of innovation in the design of firearms, and the governments of many countries realized there was a need to modernize their armies in order to survive. Three brothers from the Beistegui family in Spain (Cosme, Domingo, and Juan) formed a business and gained a government contract to manufacture modern pistols. BH stands for Beistegui Hermanos, which means the “Beistegui Brothers” in English.

As soon as World War One ended, there was a sudden drop-off in the demand for new pistols, so in 1919, they switched to a product that was suddenly in great demand…bicycles!

 

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In 2008, this company launched their “Easy Motion” (eMotion/Emotion) electric bike line, which has proven to have a very successful balance between features, performance, and affordable price. Now, in 2016…this is the first model year that BH has begun selling All Wheel Drive (AWD) ebikes. We wrote about 2WD ebikes a year ago in January 2015, and I still believe in them now as much as ever.

The power limit in the USA is 750W for a street-legal ebike. And…although AWD ebikes are most appropriate for off-road conditions (where there is NO legal power limit), lets use 750W as our example. On dry pavement, it is unlikely that a single 750W hubmotor (or mid drive) will ever break loose due to overpowering the traction available to one tire. However, as you begin raising the power of your ebikes’ system, you will reach the limits of traction at some point, and…the more slippery the road conditions, the easier the tires will slip at even lower power levels.

 

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Even if we still limit our discussion to 750W, by spreading that limited amount of power across two tires, you not only double the traction of the powered tires, you dramatically raise the amount of heat-shedding that your system is capable of, because now, your amp-heat is being shed by two motors. Not to mention the benefit of redundancy, meaning…if one motor or controller fails, the other can still get you home. Also, two smaller hubmotors are much more stealthy compared to one larger hubmotor…

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BH has two AWD Models now, what do they have in common?

I highly recommend that the best option for an AWD ebike that runs 28-MPH or less (45 km/h), is to seriously consider a geared hubmotor for the front. Our thrusted friend “Doctor Bass” has stated he has run up to 2000W through his front hubmotor before occasionally experiencing tire slippage.

When a powered 2-wheeler accelerates, the weight of the bike will shift to the rear, so…the rear tire can experience more grip (especially on an uphill), and…if you agree that an occasional 2000W peak for the front hubmotor is the effective traction limit, then that power level is well within the range of geared hubmotors, which have good low-RPM torque, and are smaller and lighter than the average 2000W direct drive hubmotor.

As a result of that weight-shift to the rear, it is useful to make the rear motor of an AWD system larger than the front, regardless of the power level of the whole system. There are two features that jumped out at me as I read the specs on the new BH Evo AWD ebikes. The front motor is geared, and the rear motor is larger than the front. Although the rear 350W and front 250W motor “power ratings” are not hugely impressive (due to their primary European Union market target), the 600W total is their continuous rating, and they are both actually capable of a higher temporary peak power.

As I read on, I was pleasantly surprised to find a third feature that really caught my eye. The electronic brain of these ebikes constantly tracks the individual speeds of the motors (perhaps through the hall-sensor pulses?), and if it detects a more than 5% difference in speed, it reads that as one of the wheels beginning to slip. If that happens it will moderate the speed of the faster motor. In plain language, the BH Evo AWD ebikes have “anti-skid” traction control!

I was also quite impressed with their front and rear “quick disconnect” levers. The pic below shows the front geared hubmotor, the 180mm brake disc, and also the dual QD levers that they are using instead of axle-nuts (which would require a wrench). I like how when you combine a QD with a front disc brake, it becomes very easy to remove the wheel for storage, transport, or for fixing a flat tire….without any tools.

 

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Pic courtesy of Mark at ebikereviews.com.au

Both of these models use an aluminum alloy frame that has an attractive hydro-formed shape. They also route their brake cables and shifting cables through the inside of the frame tubing for an uncluttered look. They both use Tektro hydraulic discs (180mm front, 160mm rear), with ebike power cut-offs when activated. They both use 36V batteries that are mounted inside their downtubes.

Those are the similarities, and now…let’s look at how they are different.

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Evo Snow 29 Pro

29-inch wheels are a recent phenomenon, and I’ve been told they have two benefits that make up for the extra weight of the larger wheel and tire. First, they handle potholes and obstacles better than a smaller diameter wheel. Second…if you see an obstacle coming up, you have time to begin adding power to your forward acceleration, and then, once you hit the obstacle, the “flywheel” effect of the larger diameter wheel will help carry you over it.

Regardless of any claimed benefit, 29’r wheels have become quite popular, and the first BH AWD model I want to describe is the Evo Snow 29 Pro. The retail price is $3299, and it uses 29 X 2.25 tires. Its weight is 57.7 lbs (26.2 kg)

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The battery is listed as 432-WH (36V/12-Ah), and power can be applied up to 20-MPH (40 km/h), which I assume makes it street-legal in the USA. I found that the “bent” top bar is a well-done variation of the current trend in frame shapes, to make the “standover” height safer. If you are riding on a frame like this and your feet come off of the pedals, hopefully…your feet will hit the ground before your niblets hit the low top bar.

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Evo Big Bud Pro

This fatbike model has all the benefits of the 29’r, but the major difference is that it uses 26 X 4.0 fat tires combined with a solid steel fork, instead of the suspension forks found on the 29’r. This fat version costs about $200 more (at $3499), but you also get a larger battery, presumably because fatbikes typically have a higher rolling resistance in exchange for the improved traction. This ebikes weight is 63.2 lb (28.7 kg), which is only six pounds more than the Snow 29’r.

 

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There is a small discrepancy in the listings between the North American version and the EU-spec version. The EU version is called the “Big Foot”, and has a 460-WH battery (36V / 12.7-Ah). The North American version is called the “Big Bud” and has a 526-WH battery (36V / 14.6-Ah).

 

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Pic courtesy of Alaska Ebike, thanks Cary.

Whatever power level you choose for your ebike, you can experience better traction in all conditions when splitting that power through two slightly smaller motors (instead of one larger motor), and I am glad to see a major manufacturer finally making a big move into this configuration. You might not feel any difference at all on a test track in nice weather, but once you get into some snow or loose soil off-road…AWD is a completely different experience…

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, April 2016

Walleräng M.01, and the Shimano STEPS mid drive

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I’ve been looking for an excuse to write about the Shimano STEPS mid drive system, and now that the Walleräng M.01 is finally for sale in the USA, that moment has arrived. This is not exactly a “cargobike”, but…it is a sophisticated and upscale street commuter with several well-designed cargo solutions, and made in Sweden.

The Walleräng factory is located in the town of Högsbo, near the main port city of Gothenburg , which is a departure from the trend to have every global product actually made in China. The local culture was influenced by the inherent Scandinavian style, and influenced over the years by the historical influx of Scottish and Dutch immigrants, which I regard as a net benefit.

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The Shimano STEPs mid drive

I had the pleasure of test-riding the Shimano STEPS (The acronym stands for “Shimano Total Electric Power System”) at the 2015 Interbike meet, and I came away very impressed. Regardless of the amount of modest input watts that it is “rated for”, this type of system converts that modest input-energy into an impressive 50 Newton-meters amount of wheel-torque, and the final wheel-torque result is actually all that matters from a performance point of view.

 

The Shimano STEPs mid drive

The Shimano STEPS mid drive

 

Let’s take a look at the published pics of the Shimano STEPS internals, and see what we can discern from that, shall we? These types of “proprietary interface” mid drives are designed to address an issue with the problems that big global manufacturers face, when contemplating the need to promote the entirely new paradigm that ebikes represent.

This very sophisticated Japanese Shimano offering works quite well. These “proprietary interface” drives make it easier for a “Local Bike Shop” (LBS) to service customer issues. It also addresses the issue of local governments having a need to restrict “turn key” ebikes to meet the national or state laws , regarding power or speed levels.

By using the word “proprietary”, I mean in comparison to the popular Bafang BBS02 and BBSHD, which are designed to be able to “slip into” just about any bicycle frame…such as the cheap bikes from the “big box” retailers.

“Hot rodders” will always push the limits of what’s allowed, but…when it comes to turn-key ebikes, the drive unit needs to be something that is “hard to hack”, due to legal liability issues. The LBS issues it addresses is that: bicycle mechanics  must be paid a little more if they can do more, so…these types of drives are designed so that the simple “average guy” can R&R them cheaply, meaning just “Remove and Replace”, then…they send the rare “bad unit” back to the factory. The factories actually don’t want any local mechanics to fiddle with any detailed repairs.

The “big dog” on the porch is the Bosch mid drive, and a “fast rising” second place contestant is the less expensive Yamaha mid drive. Third place belongs to the “dark horse” Bafang Max mid drive, which I fully expect to make a HUGE expansion into the mid drive market in 2017, due simply to a significant price advantage.

 

The Shimano STEPs mid drive opened up

The Shimano STEPs mid drive opened up

 

From the pic above we can see that…it is an inrunner (which sheds heat well to the aluminum “powdered metal” case), with a high-speed and low turn-count stator, The primary reduction uses helical teeth in the gears to reduce the noise, and the secondary reduction has the less-expensive straight teeth to keep the cost as affordable as possible.

Occasionally, I read about criticisms concerning the choice of using “square taper” spindles (as opposed to using the upgraded “ISIS” spindle), but…since the crank-arms only see the stress of human pedal-power when used on a mid-drive, I think these are an acceptable choice for a street ebike, and quite appropriate.

This drive unit uses the expected “torque sensor” to determine when the rider begins pedaling. This means that the “split second” when the rider begins pedaling, the motor will immediately begin to apply a very smooth and seamless application of power, without any delay (as opposed to the less-expensive “speed sensor” style)

The battery is 36V, and 11.6-Ah. That power level combined with the large reduction inside the drive-unit will provide a significant range for those “pedal-assist” ebikers who want a fairly light ebike that “looks like” a regular bicycle from a distance.

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The Blix and Walleräng connection

The Blix company is better known for their “affordable” line of ebikes. Such as the folding “small wheel” Vika, the full sized “step through” Komfort, and lastly…the conventional diamond-framed “Stockholm”. The Walleräng was developed in Sweden as a standalone product, and these two companies have merged in order to market both of their products in North America. Both companies are from Sweden, so it was inevitable that they would meet.

Sweden is in Northern Europe, a part of the Scandinavian region.

Sweden is in Northern Europe, a part of the Scandinavian region.

 

The curved red line in the map above is the Arctic circle, and that means that Sweden has brutally cold winters and almost no sun at all for several months a year. It also means they have very long days in the short summer, and Swedes are known to make good use of any daylight they can enjoy during that time. Blix’s North American operations are based from Santa Cruz, located on the central coast of California.

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Quality Details and the Price

The word “quality” brings up a variety of definitions. The price of the Walleräng is a significant $3690 USD, so…what do you get to justify such a price?

This is a non-suspension frame, so it has an uphill battle in this price range. Compared to the comparable Stromer ST-2, it actually has better hill-climbing ability (due to the motor having the usage of the bikes gears, rather than using a “single speed” direct drive rear hubmotor), but…some customers are not always educated enough about their respective features to make that distinction.

American buyers in particular are sensitive to the price/performance ratio of ebike products, more so than the sophisticated nuances found in the European Union (EU) market, which is quite deep and wide (due the the typically $8/gallon gasoline prices, no doubt)

 

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The welded attachment bosses on the Wallerang aluminum frame

 

In the pic above, I want our readers to make note of the details about the cargo-rack attachment points. If they had spec’d the common and affordable “clamp-on” cargo racks (front and rear), then…those racks would end up being weak, and prone to vibrating loose over time. If Walleräng had opted to simply drill holes into the head-tube and seat-stays (and cut threads into them), that decision might result in slightly weaker attachment points, possibly prone to developing cracks over time if actually used to transport serious cargo.

They chose to use welded-on bosses (raised portions, in machinist parlance), that had integral threaded holes, in order to accept the optional cargo racks. If you are using some type of “threadlocker” fluid when bolting-on these cargo racks, they will never vibrate loose. And…by not insisting on having welded cargo racks, Walleräng allows the customer to decide if they want cargo racks (one in the front or rear) or none at all (in order to improve weight and cost)

 

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The Wallerang head tube

 

In the pic above, I wanted to make note of three features. First of all, Walleräng routes their cables through the interior of the downtube, which is something that I am seeing increasingly as an expected feature in the upscale market.

Second, upscale bicycle manufacturers are all trying to differentiate themselves from the offerings of the cheaper “big box” store bicycles, which are sold at a significant price difference and with no customer support. One of the ways that has made itself known this past year is the use of “hydroformed” aluminum tubing in the construction of the frame. Notice the unusual cross-section of the tubing used in the pic above, and also the odd bend in that tubing. Both are the result of using the hydroforming technique, which puts an aluminum tube into a formed mold, and then applies high-pressure water to the inside of the tube, in order to push the aluminum tubing outwards  to expand into the custom form, which changes its shape.

The third and last feature I like in the pic above is something that I have only previously seen on custom “one off” builds. Compare the previous picture to the next one, and notice that the welds have been “smoothed over” before the painting stage. You might call this a “blended weld”.

Is the addition of the small features like this worth the higher price? Customers in North America will now finally be given the opportunity to decide if that kind of thing is something they are willing to pay extra for.

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Style and Function

The factory options of cargo racks and fenders show that this ebike is designed by people who actually use them. The Shimano STEPS mid drive was designed to not only provide a certain level of performance, it was also designed to do that while being as light as possible. This reveals the goals of the chief designer. Most ebikes lean towards either one end of the performance spectrum or the other. Rather than being a slightly heavy “hot rod”, the Walleräng aspires to be a light and efficient commuter, that can achieve long range from a small and light battery and motor.

 

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Picture courtesy of of www.ebikereviews.com.au in Australia…thanks Mark!

 

Fenders are not currently a highly desired feature by North American buyers (who are notoriously price-sensitive)…and yet…over time, ebikes will gain a wider acceptance, and when that happens? Riders will begin to appreciate spending a little extra to have features that make their daily riding experience more pleasant. Fenders are high on this “accessory” list, and when buyers here begin to buy them, many of them will then begin to appreciate a fender that is designed to not only be light, but it is designed to plug right in with their particular model, with no adaptation issues.

 

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A pleasant ride through the fall trees with friends on a Wallerang would be a delightful afternoon adventure.

 

Another feature that identifies the Walleräng as a serious commuter is that…the headlight and tail-light are powered directly off of the main battery pack (as opposed to being powered by a separate small battery)

I also like how the kickstand is located towards the rear. This a small annoyance of mine, but…when the kickstand is located near the center of the bike, it hits the pedals when the rider occasionally needs to roll the bike backwards a few feet.

The Walleräng uses an electrically-shifted IGH, the Shimano Alfine-8 with a Di2 shifter. This is a delightful combination that I tested at Interbike, and  I discovered I liked it much more than I thought I would. The Alfine uses a roller-clutch so…it rolls along silently as opposed to most conventional IGH’s which have a clicking noise from the common pawls used in the integral freewheel.

 

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Picture courtesy of www.ebikereviews.com.au from Australia

 

As anyone would expect with an ebike in this price range, the brakes are dual-disc hydraulic units. I have a confession to make, I have ridden a Shimano STEPS-equipped ebike at Interbike this last September, but…I have not had the opportunity to ride the Walleräng yet. That being said, I would still have recommended that the Walleräng use a larger diameter disc on the front (something around 200mm), compared to the rear.

I am told from trusted sources that the stock brakes work fine, and there has been a frequent argument in ebike circles about the spec of the brake components. My position is this: even if the rider can “lock up” the front wheel using a common 160mm/180mm diameter disc, what if they had used a larger disc?…it  can improve the heat absorption and dissipation of that brake (for long downhills). It is well-known that when a rider is applying the brakes, the weight of the bike is shifted forward, so…something along the lines of 3/4ths of the braking is accomplished by the front brake (especially on a downhill).

 

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Shimano ICE 160mm hydraulic disc brake on the front and rear.

 

As to whether or not to choose a hydraulic brake for the FRONT, this is becoming one of the most frequently suggested upgrades to any serious street commuter that does not have hydraulic brakes from the factory.

I have found that when it concerns the REAR brakes of an ebike street commuter that doesn’t exceed 28-MPH (45 km/h), the rear brakes can be adequate if using rim brakes that are well adjusted, and using well-regarded pads like the Kool Stop Salmon pads, or…by using a cable-operated disc brake like the highly regarded Avid BB7”s (one of my perennial favorites). That being said, you never have to apologize for choosing the more expensive hydraulic disc brakes for the rear.

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Conclusions and Complaints

I have been a proponent of the feet-forward posture for commuter bicycles, a feature embraced by Dutch-style bicycles, and also the Electra bicycle company. The standard bicycle “leaned forward” posture (seen here in the Walleräng), places some stress and body-weight on the riders’ wrists, but…it also provides a more aerodynamic posture when traveling at higher speeds. Since the Walleräng has committed to avoiding the cost and weight of a front suspension, I would recommend that their website provide the option of a suspension handlebar stem, to help absorb the shocks of the ebike hitting potholes in the street. There may not be any potholes in Sweden, but there certainly are here in the USA.

It also wouldn’t hurt for them to inform customers of the option of a suspension seat-post, such as the popular Suntour NCX, or the Thudbuster ST. I have used both, and I highly recommend them them for any ebike without a rear suspension.

I would also encourage them to provide the upgrade on their website for an triangular-shaped battery pack, which would provide a much longer range for customers who were willing to accept the higher weight of a larger battery pack.

The only expected upgrade that Wallerang did not provide is the option of a belt drive (like the famous Gates drive). In order to do that, they would either have to design the frame with an “elevated stay” on the drive side, or make the frame with a “breakable joint” that can be unbolted, like this one, or possibly this style. I do not fault them for not including a belt-drive option, but…in this price range, and in light of their goal of producing a premier light-weight commuter?…I would have expected it to be an option (even if that would cost more over the base model)

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With my petty complaints aside, I really like the looks of this ebike. Many new owners may not be able to explain what tipped them in favor of this particular ebike, compared to others, but…it certainly has “something special” about its style that is subtle. That might not be enough to entice a lot of North American buyers, but I am writing this in order to reach those riders who appreciate the unique combination of features that the Walleräng has.

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, May 2016

Electra Townie Go! now using Bosch Mid Drive

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The Electra company is most well known for their Townie line of frames, which uses their “feet forward” posture. Last year they retailed a factory electric version with a 2-speed hubmotor. This year they have upgraded that option with the well-known Bosch mid drive.

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The Original 2015 Townie Go!

Two years ago, we wrote about the new SRAM E-matic 2-speed hubmotor system, which at the time was only available on the 2015 Electra Townie Go!

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The 2015 Electra Townie Go! using the SRAM E-matic 2-speed rear hubmotor

 

That system was designed for the 16-MPH pedelec laws in the European Union (EU), and so far has not been selling well in North America. It was fairly uncluttered, since the torque-sensor was integrated into the hub, and did not have a hand-throttle option. The only separate element to the electrical system is the battery, since the controller is also integrated inside the hub.

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Standard frame and step-through versions

The Electra bicycle company was formed in Vista (Southern California) in 1993. The two founders are Benno Bänziger from Switzerland, and Jeano Erforth from Germany. They felt that there was a market for a high-quality cruiser bicycle, especially one with an upright rider posture, like they had seen in Dutch commuter bicycles.

Riders need to have an appropriate amount of leg extension, and if the seat is located directly above the pedals, then riders will have to touch the ground with only the tips of their toes, when they come to a stop. A distinctive feature of Electra bicycles is how steeply sloped the seat-tube is. This way, when a riders height is taken into consideration during the adjustment to the seat-height, the seat is also automatically adjusted for the riders leg-extension.

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Electra has copyrighted the term “Flat Foot Technology”, so other bicycle companies that carry a frame with the same posture call theirs “Feet Forward””

 

Electra Townies are probably the most well-known “Comfort Cruiser” bicycles. Athletic-themed bicycles typically position their riders with a more “leaned forward” posture, which places some of the riders upper body weight onto their wrists. Although doing that is more aerodynamic, there are many riders who still prefer a more casual riding experience, which originated in relatively flat “beach culture” communities.

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The Electra Townie “step through” version. Electra provides a wide variety of color options, and many models have color co-ordinated rims.

 

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Features

The Electra company has done a good job of reducing the wiring clutter around the handlebars as much as is reasonably possible. The removable dashboard module has a fairly large screen, with large and easy-to read numbers to indicate the riders speed, distance traveled, and the status of the battery.

 

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The battery case is slim, and some of the wires and cables are routed through the frame tubing.

 

If you spec a band-brake, a roller-brake, or a drum-brake, the frame doesn’t need to have any integrated mounting elements, such as a welded disc brake caliper mount. The Townie Go! uses dual band brakes, and the distinctive slotted aluminum disc is only there to absorb and dissipate heat.

This style of brake is not well-known in North America, but it does have some strengths. It typically works quite well in wet weather, and also in sandy beach climates. Plus, roller, drum, and band brakes require very little adjustment over time, so they are known for their reduced maintenance needs. As much as I feel that this style is adequate for the rear brake, I would have preferred that the fork have the welded caliper mounts so that it would be easy for dealers or customers to upgrade to a hydraulic disc brake, so that buyers had an option.

If someone wanted a front disc brake, the current model would require that the entire fork be swapped-out for a different one. The general rarity of 90mm drum brakes seems to be because of their higher weight, compared to V-style rim brakes, or even common disc brake systems. However, drum brakes are well-regarded in the heavy “pedicab” market, so performance would be more than adequate for higher speeds, and long descents.

 

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The band brakes are reported to work well, but are rare in North America.

 

In the pic below, you can see that the battery used by the Townie Go! has a hard case that has recently come to be called the “shark battery”. You can also see how some of the wires and cables are routed through the frame tubing. The Townie Go! is a comprehensive commuter with factory-installed fenders. It also has a front headlight and rear tail-light that are powered directly from the main battery pack.

 

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The Townie Go! has fenders and lights.

 

The 2016 Townie Go! uses the respected Shimano Nexus Inter-8. I have been a fan of Internally Geared Hubs (IGH’s) since I was young, in applications where they are appropriate. The interior mechanism couples a narrow planetary 2-speed with a robust 4-speed gear-set. The 2-speed provides either a direct-drive upper range 4-speed, or a 1.53:1 reduction for the low range.

 

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The Shimano Nexus Inter-8

 

We recently wrote about Internally Geared Hubs. They are slightly heavier than the common derailleur (with a derailleurs’ external sprocket stack), but…many riders appreciate that IGH’s are known for lower maintenance needs, and also that they can be shifted while the rider is at a stop. This is handy if you are forced to unexpectedly stop when you are in a higher gear. If you had a common derailleur, you have to start spinning the rear wheel (which is in a high gear at the moment) before you can change gears to the right one.

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Biktrix Stunner

If you are interested in a street commuter that is not quite as expensive as the Bosch-drive Townie Go!, There is a new company in Canada called Biktrix, and their “Stunner” model has a similar posture. It uses the Bafang BBS01/BBS02 mid drive kit. Although the Bafang unit uses a speed-sensor (as opposed to the more sophisticated torque-sensor on the Bosch), the Bafang unit is also capable of more power, dependant on which model and system voltage is chosen.

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The Biktrix Stunner

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Feet Forward options

If you are interested in building a street commuter with some of the same features as the Townie Go!, there are other frame options available as a starting point for around $400 each. The bikes listed below all have a fairly large frame triangle, so they can use the popular Dolphin or shark battery cases. If you want very high range, these frames will also accept large triangle battery packs in a triangle bag. They also have the relaxed casual posture that beach cruisers are becoming known for.

First is the KHS Manhattan Smoothie, and just after that is the Firmstrong CA-520. I have seen both of these frames used with Bafang mid drives.

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The KHS Manhattan Smoothie

 

 

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The Firmstrong CA-520

 

Last is the Electra Lux Cruiser, shown below. I must warn anyone who wants to attempt to mount one of the popular BBS02/BBSHD mid drive kits that…the motor will have to be rotated downwards, near the ground. Or…it can be mounted with the motor upright, inside the triangle. Mounting it inside the triangle sounds wonderful, but…doing that requires a huge dimple be made in the seat-tube and the down-tube. The tubing on this bike is aluminum, however…it is surprisingly strong, and fitting the BBS-series of drive there is very difficult.

I only mention that because the Electra Lux has the riders’ posture that fits me , so I bought one for myself…so I am intimately familiar with it. It has a “fat tire” option, a front disc brake option, and also a dual disc brake option. I plan to upgrade the front disc brake to a larger disc with a hydraulic caliper, since I often commute in traffic at 30-MPH (48-km/h).

 

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The 2016 Electra Lux

 

The standard Electra Townie can usually be found for around $400, and they are one of my most suggested donor-bikes to make a street commuter. The Lux is longer than the Townie, and more expensive ($500-$700). It has a 1-inch head-tube format (which limits front suspension fork options). The Townie uses the more popular 1-1/8th inch head tube, so a wide variety of suspension fork options can be pondered, from mild to wild.

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Thudbuster or Suntour NCX

I have owned both the Cane Creek Thudbuster, and the Suntour NCX suspension seatpost. They both work wonderful, and either one would be my first accessory purchase for a hardtail street commuter frame.

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The Suntour NCX suspension seat-post

 

Most bicycles embrace a rider posture that leans the rider forward. Doing so can efficiently allow the rider to shift their body weight left and right on the pedals, as opposed to a recumbent (where the rider is leaned onto their back). When a recumbent rider is in the situation of riding uphill, they must use only leg muscle. Also, by leaning the rider forward, their body position is more aerdynamic. However, it also puts some of the riders weight onto their wrists.

The upright posture on the bikes listed above is being found to be more comfortable for many new bicyclists. However, it does focus any road-jolts onto the riders spine, such as hitting an unexpected pothole. For this reason, I strongly recommend a suspension seat-post be the first addition to anyone of these commuters.

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Written by Ron/spinningmagnets, June 2016

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